Does a student’s narration from a mudallis’s book remove the defect of tadlis?
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The questioner : If a man is known for tadlis, and his student narrates from his book, does the student’s narration from the mudallis’s book remove the defect of tadlis?
The Shaykh : How did the mudallis narrate in his book?
The questioner : We do not know; we do not know whether he also commits tadlis in his book or not.
The Shaykh : How do we know? The reality will be in his book: “It was narrated to me by so-and-so” or “from so-and-so.”
The questioner : Or “from so-and-so.”
The Shaykh : There is no difference.
The questioner : Okay, so there is no difference.
The Shaykh : There is no difference.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Perhaps the meaning of this example is actually in the printing or the narration. We find in the Musannaf of Ibn Abi Shaybah, as printed today, many hadiths where it says at the beginning “other than so-and-so,” and hadiths where it says “from so-and-so,” and sometimes nothing—neither this nor that.
The questioner : So-and-so.
The Shaykh : Yes. If he were among the types of mudallis, we would hesitate regarding him in the second and third cases. If you are asking about the mudallis and the student transmitting from his book, there is no difference between it being “from so-and-so” in his book or him saying “It was narrated to me by so-and-so.” But in both cases, it is accepted and rejected; he must explicitly state the narration, or otherwise it is suspended or rejected. The condition around which the question revolves does not change the known rule among hadith scholars.
The questioner : I mentioned earlier, Shaykh, something that indicates and supports your statement, may Allah reward you: the story of al-Layth ibn Sa’d with Abu al-Zubayr, for Abu al-Zubayr gave him his book.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : And after that, he returned and asked him: “Where is what you heard and where is what you did not hear from Jabir? Make it clear to me.”
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The questioner : If merely narrating from the mudallis’s book removed the defect, there would have been no need for al-Layth’s question.
The Shaykh : Well done.
The Shaykh : How did the mudallis narrate in his book?
The questioner : We do not know; we do not know whether he also commits tadlis in his book or not.
The Shaykh : How do we know? The reality will be in his book: “It was narrated to me by so-and-so” or “from so-and-so.”
The questioner : Or “from so-and-so.”
The Shaykh : There is no difference.
The questioner : Okay, so there is no difference.
The Shaykh : There is no difference.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Perhaps the meaning of this example is actually in the printing or the narration. We find in the Musannaf of Ibn Abi Shaybah, as printed today, many hadiths where it says at the beginning “other than so-and-so,” and hadiths where it says “from so-and-so,” and sometimes nothing—neither this nor that.
The questioner : So-and-so.
The Shaykh : Yes. If he were among the types of mudallis, we would hesitate regarding him in the second and third cases. If you are asking about the mudallis and the student transmitting from his book, there is no difference between it being “from so-and-so” in his book or him saying “It was narrated to me by so-and-so.” But in both cases, it is accepted and rejected; he must explicitly state the narration, or otherwise it is suspended or rejected. The condition around which the question revolves does not change the known rule among hadith scholars.
The questioner : I mentioned earlier, Shaykh, something that indicates and supports your statement, may Allah reward you: the story of al-Layth ibn Sa’d with Abu al-Zubayr, for Abu al-Zubayr gave him his book.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : And after that, he returned and asked him: “Where is what you heard and where is what you did not hear from Jabir? Make it clear to me.”
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The questioner : If merely narrating from the mudallis’s book removed the defect, there would have been no need for al-Layth’s question.
The Shaykh : Well done.
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