Continuation of the discussion on the meaning of open disbelief and whether it is permissible to rebel against the ruler

The Shaykh : Therefore, we find that the scholars at that time did not counter the indication of al-Mahdi by rebelling against them, because they came with a command that was wrong, but they did not come with open disbelief. And so they met what they met of torture and imprisonment, and perhaps death and killing, and they did not rebel against them. And here now, after it has become clear to us what open disbelief is and we have given some examples, there is a benefit in understanding this hadith in this age where there is no pledge of allegiance. I believe that those who raise this question and similar ones are from the modern Khawarij group. They carry the new ideology adopted by the group that called itself, rightly or wrongly, the group of Takfir and Hijrah. Yes.

The questioner : Takfir and Hijrah.

The Shaykh : Takfir and Hijrah. Ah, these people want us to see that we now see open disbelief from many of the Muslim rulers, so it is permissible to rebel against them. We say the original state is that you have not pledged allegiance. The matter is easier than they imagine, but it is more dangerous than they claim. That is, from one angle it is easier, and from another angle it is more dangerous. In the original state, there is no imam to whom we have pledged allegiance so that we would withdraw the pledge and we have seen open disbelief. No, we are all comfortable, unfortunately, comfortable. And it is necessary that we have an imam and we pledge allegiance to him, and we bear his injustice and tyranny, and so on, until we see this explicit disbelief. So in the original state, we are comfortable; we have no pledge of allegiance. But the matter is more dangerous: is it permissible to rebel, even if we see open disbelief in this time? The hadith allows us, if we were pledged and we saw explicit disbelief, to allow us to rebel against him and to not obey them. So a fortiori, it may allow us to rebel when we have no pledge of allegiance. But does it allow us now to rebel against this ruler or that one? I think you have understood the answer from what came before, because the outcome of this rebellion will be worse than the situation we are living in now. Yes.

The questioner : The creed of rebellion.

The Shaykh : The creed of rebellion. And this, as I said, we referred to earlier in several incidents that occurred, unfortunately, due to rebellion that is not permitted in Islamic jurisprudence.
These people of Hijrah and Takfir knew something of Islam and were enthusiastic for it, and they set out to work for it with a concept in which they deviated in many of its aspects and prohibitions. So their outcome was that they stirred up a deaf, dumb, and blind fitnah, and they delayed the da'wah in many lands for decades.