Is it a close, varied connection, or a rare one, or what?
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The Shaykh : Is it a close, varied connection, or a rare one, or what?The Shaykh : Muhammad ibn Uthaymeen?
The questioner : By Allah, I am in contact with him, but for months I have been in Hail.
The Shaykh : I mean, do you see him often or rarely?
The questioner : No, no, I see him rarely.
The Shaykh : Rarely. We have not received any news; we want to verify it. I strongly objected to it, even according to our own school of thought, which holds that a woman’s face is not an awrah (part of the body that must be covered), even though the best is to cover it, as you know. What reached us about him last month was that he claimed to have read in the newspaper Al-Muslimun thatThe Shaykh : Ibn Uthaymeen was asked about the niqab in the modern era and denied its permissibility in a strange way. Has such a report reached your ears?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Yes, and with Juhaynah is the certain news!
The questioner : I do not know anything about the intensity of the denial, butThe Shaykh : he speaks regarding the reality of the Muslim who lives there, meaning so that it does not become a means for women to uncover their faces. He says, no, do not wear the niqab. And the niqab, as you know, Shaykh, reveals the eyes!
The Shaykh : So what does she do?
The questioner : She covers her face completely, and this becomes a means for the woman to reveal her cheeks...
The Shaykh : Fine, does he not know—this is what made me find the report strange—does he not know that the niqab existed in the time of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him)? And one of the proofs of the majority among you—and I do not say among all Muslims—that it is not permissible for a woman to uncover her face is the hadithMuwatta Malik 20:17 So the non-mahram wears it; how can it be said today, do not wear it?
The questioner : This question should perhaps be directed toThe Shaykh : himself.
The Shaykh : I mean, did it not happen that someone asked him this question?
The questioner : What I know fromThe Shaykh : is that he does not consider it forbidden at all; he does not think the Shari'ah forbids this thing!
The Shaykh : I know this. How does he view it while he argues with the hadith, but how can he say, no, the niqab is not permissible?
The questioner: As I mentioned to you from this perspective, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Yes, but what does he do with the hadith?
The questioner : Allah knows best.
The Shaykh : Fine, where did you learn this from?
The questioner : From the students of knowledge; this is widespread.
The Shaykh : Ah, widespread. Is this new or old?
The questioner : No, it is old.
The Shaykh : Fine, and did the newspaper report not reach you?
The questioner : I did not know about it.
The Shaykh : And Abu Nasser, does he have any news?
Another questioner : No, I know... he spoke about the intention of some women here; they started loosening the burqu' so that the cheeks are visible. So he spoke from the perspective of fitnah (trial, discord or temptation).The Shaykh : Muhammad ibn Uthaymeen’s words are the same asThe Shaykh : ...'Abdullah.
The Shaykh : No, they are not the same, and I do not think Abu 'Abd al-Rahman says the same thing.
The questioner : ... the 'illah (operative cause of a ruling)...
The Shaykh : No, no, we are not now researching the 'illah (operative cause of a ruling) in the scope of the issue.
The questioner : Sadd al-dhara'i' (blocking the means to harm).
The Shaykh : Fine, what is your opinion? Is it said here, sadd al-dhara'i' (blocking the means to harm)? Is this statement prescribed?
The questioner : It is established thatThe Shaykh : said this statement?
The Shaykh : Verify it; establish it from two reliable sources, but there is a type of difference between them. Abu Nasser reports from him something close to accepting the opinion that the woman wearing the niqab lowers it to include the cheek, not just the eye. The professor here, Abu 'Abd al-Rahman, did not mention this wide scope here. In any case, it was said in explaining this report that it is from the perspective of sadd al-dhara'i' (blocking the means to harm). So my question is: what is your opinion, O attendees, regarding this explanation? Is it permissible to say to prohibit—I do not say forbid, because in truth I do not know whatThe Shaykh : Muhammad ibn Uthaymeen’s expression was—to forbid something permissible on the basis of sadd al-dhara'i' (blocking the means to harm), knowing that this permissible thing existed in his time (peace and blessings be upon him) and the cause is present, is it not so, O Abu 'Abd al-Rahman?
The questioner: The matter is as you say, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh: May Allah bless you.
Ibrahim Shuqara: Regarding you... he does not say the niqab is obligatory.
The Shaykh : No, he says the niqab is not permissible now.
The questioner : Excuse me, the niqab is not permissible, but if he says the niqab is not permissible, it means the niqab is dropped entirely!
The Shaykh : But he says the alternative is the handkerchief. I say this handkerchief was not known in the time of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him). This is, of course, one of the effects of civilization—welcome, how are you? Why didn’t you greet me when you entered? Abu 'Abd al-Rahman, the speech was for you!
The questioner : I mean, if this cause exists, which is that women loosen it as mentioned, as I told you previously, I think this should be addressed by ordering women to open only the amount the woman needs. I mean, it is not said, for example, to forbid it, but rather to forbid the part of it that contradicts the Shari'ah.
The questioner : By Allah, I am in contact with him, but for months I have been in Hail.
The Shaykh : I mean, do you see him often or rarely?
The questioner : No, no, I see him rarely.
The Shaykh : Rarely. We have not received any news; we want to verify it. I strongly objected to it, even according to our own school of thought, which holds that a woman’s face is not an awrah (part of the body that must be covered), even though the best is to cover it, as you know. What reached us about him last month was that he claimed to have read in the newspaper Al-Muslimun thatThe Shaykh : Ibn Uthaymeen was asked about the niqab in the modern era and denied its permissibility in a strange way. Has such a report reached your ears?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Yes, and with Juhaynah is the certain news!
The questioner : I do not know anything about the intensity of the denial, butThe Shaykh : he speaks regarding the reality of the Muslim who lives there, meaning so that it does not become a means for women to uncover their faces. He says, no, do not wear the niqab. And the niqab, as you know, Shaykh, reveals the eyes!
The Shaykh : So what does she do?
The questioner : She covers her face completely, and this becomes a means for the woman to reveal her cheeks...
The Shaykh : Fine, does he not know—this is what made me find the report strange—does he not know that the niqab existed in the time of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him)? And one of the proofs of the majority among you—and I do not say among all Muslims—that it is not permissible for a woman to uncover her face is the hadith
a woman in ihram should wear neither a veil nor gloves
لا تنتقب المرأة المحرمة ولا تلبس القفازينThe questioner : This question should perhaps be directed toThe Shaykh : himself.
The Shaykh : I mean, did it not happen that someone asked him this question?
The questioner : What I know fromThe Shaykh : is that he does not consider it forbidden at all; he does not think the Shari'ah forbids this thing!
The Shaykh : I know this. How does he view it while he argues with the hadith, but how can he say, no, the niqab is not permissible?
The questioner: As I mentioned to you from this perspective, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Yes, but what does he do with the hadith?
The questioner : Allah knows best.
The Shaykh : Fine, where did you learn this from?
The questioner : From the students of knowledge; this is widespread.
The Shaykh : Ah, widespread. Is this new or old?
The questioner : No, it is old.
The Shaykh : Fine, and did the newspaper report not reach you?
The questioner : I did not know about it.
The Shaykh : And Abu Nasser, does he have any news?
Another questioner : No, I know... he spoke about the intention of some women here; they started loosening the burqu' so that the cheeks are visible. So he spoke from the perspective of fitnah (trial, discord or temptation).The Shaykh : Muhammad ibn Uthaymeen’s words are the same asThe Shaykh : ...'Abdullah.
The Shaykh : No, they are not the same, and I do not think Abu 'Abd al-Rahman says the same thing.
The questioner : ... the 'illah (operative cause of a ruling)...
The Shaykh : No, no, we are not now researching the 'illah (operative cause of a ruling) in the scope of the issue.
The questioner : Sadd al-dhara'i' (blocking the means to harm).
The Shaykh : Fine, what is your opinion? Is it said here, sadd al-dhara'i' (blocking the means to harm)? Is this statement prescribed?
The questioner : It is established thatThe Shaykh : said this statement?
The Shaykh : Verify it; establish it from two reliable sources, but there is a type of difference between them. Abu Nasser reports from him something close to accepting the opinion that the woman wearing the niqab lowers it to include the cheek, not just the eye. The professor here, Abu 'Abd al-Rahman, did not mention this wide scope here. In any case, it was said in explaining this report that it is from the perspective of sadd al-dhara'i' (blocking the means to harm). So my question is: what is your opinion, O attendees, regarding this explanation? Is it permissible to say to prohibit—I do not say forbid, because in truth I do not know whatThe Shaykh : Muhammad ibn Uthaymeen’s expression was—to forbid something permissible on the basis of sadd al-dhara'i' (blocking the means to harm), knowing that this permissible thing existed in his time (peace and blessings be upon him) and the cause is present, is it not so, O Abu 'Abd al-Rahman?
The questioner: The matter is as you say, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh: May Allah bless you.
Ibrahim Shuqara: Regarding you... he does not say the niqab is obligatory.
The Shaykh : No, he says the niqab is not permissible now.
The questioner : Excuse me, the niqab is not permissible, but if he says the niqab is not permissible, it means the niqab is dropped entirely!
The Shaykh : But he says the alternative is the handkerchief. I say this handkerchief was not known in the time of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him). This is, of course, one of the effects of civilization—welcome, how are you? Why didn’t you greet me when you entered? Abu 'Abd al-Rahman, the speech was for you!
The questioner : I mean, if this cause exists, which is that women loosen it as mentioned, as I told you previously, I think this should be addressed by ordering women to open only the amount the woman needs. I mean, it is not said, for example, to forbid it, but rather to forbid the part of it that contradicts the Shari'ah.
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