The dhikr after congregational prayer: its method and wording.
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The questioner : He also says regarding the dhikr after finishing the prayer with the taslim, as is established in Sahih al-Bukhari, that the end of the prayer of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) was known by the dhikr. What was the dhikr that they used to recite?
The Shaykh : We do not have a specific method for this hadith, but in other hadiths it is stated that he used to say: and seek forgiveness three times, and he used to say: Muwatta Malik 20:131.
The questioner : ... I think they used to raise their voices with the takbir, and I think this is in a wording of the hadith ...
The Shaykh : Correct, but this does not mean the wording ...
The questioner : Specifying the method
The Shaykh : Yes, this is correct. I mean, for some people in Saudi Arabia, when they say the taslim from here, they say Allahu Akbar. This is takbir, but I do not think the matter is like this.
The questioner : And this is mostly apparent.
The Shaykh : Yes, yes.
The questioner : Some of our Saudi brothers, the author of a book, says:Muwatta Malik 20:131, and he raises his voice because there is no evidence that it is an innovation, given the existence of takbir or tahlil after the prayer. He says there is no specification of how much I should raise my voice. So I used to say to this brother of mine, if we want to raise our voices, we will create confusion, and this is contrary to the Sunnah, as evidenced by Muwatta Malik 3:30
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : It may be permissible for us to say, for example, in a whisper, "There is no god but Allah alone," like this. We do not raise our voices because some of the brothers imitateThe Shaykh : the honorable bearded scholar whose face is like this. They imitate him because he raises his voice, so they raise theirs like his, and it becomes a group ...
The Shaykh : Okay, what did the man say to you?
The questioner : He said, "No, Shaykh, there is no evidence, there is no specification, there is no such thing." And our three brothers came, especially to our mosque, because I studied this matter and I told them that the Sunnah in this is such and such. They said, "We came especially this year to hear you, see your response, and debate you." They said, "Our scholar says there is no evidence for specifying the raising of the voice, so how do you want us to lower it?"
The Shaykh : Okay, did you not bring them evidence?
The questioner : We brought them evidence:Muwatta Malik 3:30
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : They said, "This hadith speaks about the Qur'an." We said, "Then what do you have regarding other than the Qur'an? May Allah reward you." And our brothers insisted on what they were upon.
The Shaykh : We ask Allah for guidance for us and for them.
The questioner : In some gatherings of the people of knowledge, ... at the end of the gathering ... does he supplicate and raise his hands?
The Shaykh : If he does that occasionally, there is no prohibition.
The Shaykh : We do not have a specific method for this hadith, but in other hadiths it is stated that he used to say:
O Allah, You are Peace ...
اللهم أنت السلام ...There is no god but Allah, alone, without any partner
لا إله إلا الله وحده لا شريك لهThe questioner : ... I think they used to raise their voices with the takbir, and I think this is in a wording of the hadith ...
The Shaykh : Correct, but this does not mean the wording ...
The questioner : Specifying the method
The Shaykh : Yes, this is correct. I mean, for some people in Saudi Arabia, when they say the taslim from here, they say Allahu Akbar. This is takbir, but I do not think the matter is like this.
The questioner : And this is mostly apparent.
The Shaykh : Yes, yes.
The questioner : Some of our Saudi brothers, the author of a book, says:
There is no god but Allah, alone, without any partner
لا إله إلا الله وحده لا شريك لهdo not say the Qur'an out loud so that others hear it
لا يجهر بعضكم على بعضThe Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : It may be permissible for us to say, for example, in a whisper, "There is no god but Allah alone," like this. We do not raise our voices because some of the brothers imitateThe Shaykh : the honorable bearded scholar whose face is like this. They imitate him because he raises his voice, so they raise theirs like his, and it becomes a group ...
The Shaykh : Okay, what did the man say to you?
The questioner : He said, "No, Shaykh, there is no evidence, there is no specification, there is no such thing." And our three brothers came, especially to our mosque, because I studied this matter and I told them that the Sunnah in this is such and such. They said, "We came especially this year to hear you, see your response, and debate you." They said, "Our scholar says there is no evidence for specifying the raising of the voice, so how do you want us to lower it?"
The Shaykh : Okay, did you not bring them evidence?
The questioner : We brought them evidence:
do not say the Qur'an out loud so that others hear it
لا يجهر بعضكم على بعضThe Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : They said, "This hadith speaks about the Qur'an." We said, "Then what do you have regarding other than the Qur'an? May Allah reward you." And our brothers insisted on what they were upon.
The Shaykh : We ask Allah for guidance for us and for them.
The questioner : In some gatherings of the people of knowledge, ... at the end of the gathering ... does he supplicate and raise his hands?
The Shaykh : If he does that occasionally, there is no prohibition.
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