What is the authenticity of the hadith that whoever steals fruit from a place without a protective enclosure has the loss doubled upon him?
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The questioner : We preferred the view that it is weak...
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Based on the opinion... and the hadith we mentioned... we preferred based on... the hadith.
The Shaykh : Because the operative cause is that it is from a place without a protective enclosure.
The questioner : No, I mean, does the hadith not hold, or?
The Shaykh : Yes, this one, yes, Imam Ahmad (may Allah have mercy on him) acted upon it, so it is authentic.
The questioner : Yes, but...
The Shaykh : So it is authentic.
The questioner : ... he mentioned the reasoning himself, meaning based on the strength of the reasoning and what... meaning based on... the hadith.
The Shaykh : It is known that it is authentic, because if it were not authentic, the analogy based on it would not be valid. If it is not authentic, the analogy based on it is not valid, because if the original case is not valid, the branch case is not established.
And blessings and peace be upon our Prophet Muhammad, and upon his family and all his Companions. So, if theft occurs, it is obligatory.
The fourth [category] said: "And if they did not kill and did not take property, they are to be repelled" This is the fourth category: "If they did not kill and did not take property" but they, I think before that, right?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Before that, some words.
The questioner : Yes, indeed.
Another questioner: On this basis, other...
The Shaykh : Yes?
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Based on the opinion... and the hadith we mentioned... we preferred based on... the hadith.
The Shaykh : Because the operative cause is that it is from a place without a protective enclosure.
The questioner : No, I mean, does the hadith not hold, or?
The Shaykh : Yes, this one, yes, Imam Ahmad (may Allah have mercy on him) acted upon it, so it is authentic.
The questioner : Yes, but...
The Shaykh : So it is authentic.
The questioner : ... he mentioned the reasoning himself, meaning based on the strength of the reasoning and what... meaning based on... the hadith.
The Shaykh : It is known that it is authentic, because if it were not authentic, the analogy based on it would not be valid. If it is not authentic, the analogy based on it is not valid, because if the original case is not valid, the branch case is not established.
And blessings and peace be upon our Prophet Muhammad, and upon his family and all his Companions. So, if theft occurs, it is obligatory.
The fourth [category] said: "And if they did not kill and did not take property, they are to be repelled" This is the fourth category: "If they did not kill and did not take property" but they, I think before that, right?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Before that, some words.
The questioner : Yes, indeed.
Another questioner: On this basis, other...
The Shaykh : Yes?