The Shaykh completing the discussion that took place between him and some of the opponents of the methodology of the Salaf
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The Shaykh: All right, Professor, but it is not logical that whenever someone wants to answer the previous question: "What is your madhhab?" I say, "My madhhab is Muslim, upon the Book and the Sunnah, and the methodology of the righteous Salaf." We need a phrase that is concise!
The student: Concise.
The Shaykh : Huh?
The student: Concise.
The Shaykh: Concise. What do you think if someone asked me or you: "What is your madhhab?" and I said, "Salafi?" He did not agree, he did not agree. In his view, he agreed with all the premises, so there is absolutely no one on the face of the earth today who says "upon the Book and the Sunnah," and adds: "and upon the methodology of the righteous Salaf." This was a topic, may Allah reward you, that was discussed at the Islamic Conference held a few years ago in al-Madinah al-Munawwarah. I was invited, along with a group of others, after the teaching relationship between us and them had been cut off. The topic that was discussed was: "From where is Islamic jurisprudence derived?" They said: "From the Book and the Sunnah," and they had formed multiple committees.
The student: I was present!
The Shaykh : Yes?
The student: I was present at that time!
The Shaykh: You were present?!
The student: Of course.
The Shaykh: So I raised my finger and said: "What do you think, esteemed Professor, if we added, as I mentioned before, 'upon the Book and the Sunnah and the methodology of the righteous Salaf,' because all the groups claim the Book and the Sunnah." And this condition was actually recorded, but where is the action?! Now, the Muslim Brotherhood, which has been around for seventy years, and they call for establishing the Muslim state, do they say: "Do you hear them speaking of the methodology of the righteous Salaf?"
The student: No, you do not hear it.
The Shaykh: No, you do not hear it from the Tahrir Party, you do not hear it from the Tabligh Jama'ah. So do not fear this declaration. This declaration, in reality, even if it is not implemented, is a great scholarly gain.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : That is it.
The student: But there is something, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
The student: Even if they say it, they will not act upon it, and they will not adhere to it at all.
The Shaykh: I told you just now, it was recorded at the conference.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh: But bring the action, except that the brother here is still, I mean, his heart is good and his opinion is good, but he has a right to ask: "What is the alternative?"
The student: Correct, correct.
The Shaykh: Now, we tell them that it is haram, my brothers, to put your money in the bank, whether it has a sign saying "Islamic Bank" or not, and he asks you: "What is the alternative?!"
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh: We tell them the alternative, or at least part of the alternative: rent a safe deposit box.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh: And put it there, so that the hand of riba does not reach you. This is a type of alternative.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh: No, here they want an alternative on their own terms, one that solves their economic problems that fill their bellies with material things, and so on. No, the city of Islam is not like that. But here, the alternative, as we said, is:[An-Nahl 16:43], and we affirm and call upon Allah (Mighty and Majestic) that they may be able to reach the raising of the banner of Islam: "La ilaha illa Allah." But not in the way of your Saddam, right? That they raise the banner of "La ilaha illa Allah" on a cable, and rule by the Hanafi madhhab, but they do not stop there, rather they seek assistance.
The student: This is the principle.
Another student : No, we want the madhhab!
The Shaykh: Do you know how to complete it?
The student: We want the madhhab, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Yes?
The student: We want the Hanifi madhhab.
The Shaykh: That is what you want, and we are just going around it!!
The student: Yes, there is a matter—do you allow me, I need to leave, because I have an appointment—.
The Shaykh: But with one condition?
The student : Yes?
The Shaykh: That our companion does not catch up with you on the 'azimah now!
The student: By Allah, he is in his own way.
The Shaykh: Yes, in his own way.
The student: But I want to say, my Shaykh, one thing: there is also a word or term they repeat a lot, and they make this the thing that unites the ummah, because some of the verified people and writers and such are going around it, and it is: "Ahl al-Sunnah wa al-Jama'ah." This word is more dangerous than saying: "We are upon the madhhab of the Book and the Sunnah," because this word, Subhan Allah! is misleading, and it is also one of the most dangerous terms in our present age.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The student: Because it gathers the Druze and it gathers...
Another student : Focus on it in your lecture.
The student : If Allah wills.
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you.
The student : Glory be to You, O Allah, and praise be to You.
The Shaykh: But I am afraid, do not blame me, I am afraid of you, do not blame me!!
The student : Why?
The Shaykh: Because I have lived and I am about to reach eighty years of age, and I know nothing but frankness, especially with our good brothers like all those present, because when I told you, "We hope they will reach Kabul and raise the Islamic banner, and let them rule by the Hanafi madhhab," you put your hand on your head!!!
The student: No, no, did you complete this thing?
The Shaykh: Yes, yes, I completed it.
The student: You meant with knowledge, correct.
The Shaykh: Why did you put your hand on your head?
The student: It is not the correct speech.
The Shaykh: It is as if you are hearing it for the first time, whereas I have emphasized it to you. May Allah guide you.
The student: Ah, I was afraid, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh: Hahaha, yes, that is why, Professor.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh: I am telling you, you want a jihad of another type, but my brother Faris!!
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh: The brother here has a word, if possible?
The student: Tomorrow morning, if Allah wills, I will speak to them on the phone, if Allah wills, and of course we will consult tomorrow, if Allah wills.
The Shaykh: All right.
The student: With Allah's permission, I will speak to them and give you news of the group. All right, peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.
The student: May Allah reward you with good and bless you.
The Shaykh: Also, I am telling you, if you were one of those: I am telling you: precious without standing up hahaha.
The student: I know that I am precious without standing up.
The Shaykh: Praise be to Allah, please.
The student: Concise.
The Shaykh : Huh?
The student: Concise.
The Shaykh: Concise. What do you think if someone asked me or you: "What is your madhhab?" and I said, "Salafi?" He did not agree, he did not agree. In his view, he agreed with all the premises, so there is absolutely no one on the face of the earth today who says "upon the Book and the Sunnah," and adds: "and upon the methodology of the righteous Salaf." This was a topic, may Allah reward you, that was discussed at the Islamic Conference held a few years ago in al-Madinah al-Munawwarah. I was invited, along with a group of others, after the teaching relationship between us and them had been cut off. The topic that was discussed was: "From where is Islamic jurisprudence derived?" They said: "From the Book and the Sunnah," and they had formed multiple committees.
The student: I was present!
The Shaykh : Yes?
The student: I was present at that time!
The Shaykh: You were present?!
The student: Of course.
The Shaykh: So I raised my finger and said: "What do you think, esteemed Professor, if we added, as I mentioned before, 'upon the Book and the Sunnah and the methodology of the righteous Salaf,' because all the groups claim the Book and the Sunnah." And this condition was actually recorded, but where is the action?! Now, the Muslim Brotherhood, which has been around for seventy years, and they call for establishing the Muslim state, do they say: "Do you hear them speaking of the methodology of the righteous Salaf?"
The student: No, you do not hear it.
The Shaykh: No, you do not hear it from the Tahrir Party, you do not hear it from the Tabligh Jama'ah. So do not fear this declaration. This declaration, in reality, even if it is not implemented, is a great scholarly gain.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : That is it.
The student: But there is something, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
The student: Even if they say it, they will not act upon it, and they will not adhere to it at all.
The Shaykh: I told you just now, it was recorded at the conference.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh: But bring the action, except that the brother here is still, I mean, his heart is good and his opinion is good, but he has a right to ask: "What is the alternative?"
The student: Correct, correct.
The Shaykh: Now, we tell them that it is haram, my brothers, to put your money in the bank, whether it has a sign saying "Islamic Bank" or not, and he asks you: "What is the alternative?!"
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh: We tell them the alternative, or at least part of the alternative: rent a safe deposit box.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh: And put it there, so that the hand of riba does not reach you. This is a type of alternative.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh: No, here they want an alternative on their own terms, one that solves their economic problems that fill their bellies with material things, and so on. No, the city of Islam is not like that. But here, the alternative, as we said, is:
So ask the people of the message if you do not know.
فَاسْأَلُوا أَهْلَ الذِّكْرِ إِنْ كُنْتُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَThe student: This is the principle.
Another student : No, we want the madhhab!
The Shaykh: Do you know how to complete it?
The student: We want the madhhab, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Yes?
The student: We want the Hanifi madhhab.
The Shaykh: That is what you want, and we are just going around it!!
The student: Yes, there is a matter—do you allow me, I need to leave, because I have an appointment—.
The Shaykh: But with one condition?
The student : Yes?
The Shaykh: That our companion does not catch up with you on the 'azimah now!
The student: By Allah, he is in his own way.
The Shaykh: Yes, in his own way.
The student: But I want to say, my Shaykh, one thing: there is also a word or term they repeat a lot, and they make this the thing that unites the ummah, because some of the verified people and writers and such are going around it, and it is: "Ahl al-Sunnah wa al-Jama'ah." This word is more dangerous than saying: "We are upon the madhhab of the Book and the Sunnah," because this word, Subhan Allah! is misleading, and it is also one of the most dangerous terms in our present age.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The student: Because it gathers the Druze and it gathers...
Another student : Focus on it in your lecture.
The student : If Allah wills.
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you.
The student : Glory be to You, O Allah, and praise be to You.
The Shaykh: But I am afraid, do not blame me, I am afraid of you, do not blame me!!
The student : Why?
The Shaykh: Because I have lived and I am about to reach eighty years of age, and I know nothing but frankness, especially with our good brothers like all those present, because when I told you, "We hope they will reach Kabul and raise the Islamic banner, and let them rule by the Hanafi madhhab," you put your hand on your head!!!
The student: No, no, did you complete this thing?
The Shaykh: Yes, yes, I completed it.
The student: You meant with knowledge, correct.
The Shaykh: Why did you put your hand on your head?
The student: It is not the correct speech.
The Shaykh: It is as if you are hearing it for the first time, whereas I have emphasized it to you. May Allah guide you.
The student: Ah, I was afraid, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh: Hahaha, yes, that is why, Professor.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh: I am telling you, you want a jihad of another type, but my brother Faris!!
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh: The brother here has a word, if possible?
The student: Tomorrow morning, if Allah wills, I will speak to them on the phone, if Allah wills, and of course we will consult tomorrow, if Allah wills.
The Shaykh: All right.
The student: With Allah's permission, I will speak to them and give you news of the group. All right, peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.
The student: May Allah reward you with good and bless you.
The Shaykh: Also, I am telling you, if you were one of those: I am telling you: precious without standing up hahaha.
The student: I know that I am precious without standing up.
The Shaykh: Praise be to Allah, please.
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