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What is the guidance regarding the mention of eternity in Allah’s statement concerning the one who consumes riba (usury or interest): “And whoever returns to it, those are the companions of the Fire; they will remain in it forever”?

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Question:
He says: Honorable Shaykh, may Allah grant you success, you mentioned, may Allah preserve you, in a previous lesson in the exegesis of the statement of Allah the Exalted
And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger - then indeed, for him is the fire of Hell; they will abide therein forever.وَمَن يَعْصِ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ فَإِنَّ لَهُ نَارَ جَهَنَّمَ خَالِدِينَ فِيهَا أَبَدًا
[Al-Jinn 72:23]
that the meaning of “and whoever disobeys” is shirk (associating partners with Allah). Yes, indeed. Because Allah said at the end of it:
then indeed, for him is the fire of Hell; they will abide thereinفَإِنَّ لَهُ نَارَ جَهَنَّمَ خَالِدِينَ فِيهَا
[Al-Jinn 72:23]
. Yes. He says: A verse in Surat al-Baqarah has confused me, which is His statement, Exalted is He, regarding the one who consumes riba:
But whoever returns to [dealing in interest or usury] - those are the companions of the Fire; they will abide eternally therein.وَمَنْ عَادَ فَأُولَٰئِكَ أَصْحَابُ النَّارِ هُمْ فِيهَا خَالِدُونَ
[Al-Baqarah 2:275]
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Answer:
So how do I begin? Those are the people of the Fire, who will abide therein forever. They will abide therein forever. The word *khulud* (eternity) is used to mean a long duration without permanence, and it is also used to mean permanence.
Source قناة «العلامة الدكتور صالح الفوزان»، [2964- 4717] ما توجيه ذكر الخلود في قول الله في آكل الربا:ومن عاد فأولئك أصحاب النار هم فيها خالدون؟ — youtube.com

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