The ruling on pointing to Allah with one’s fingers during the sermon

The questioner : May Allah bless you. Is there a ruling if one sees something? I mean, he does it with his hands like this. The preacher says, “Allah the Mighty and Majestic says: ‘To [whom] He wills.’ ‘As He wills.’” And he moves his hands. Do we report this directly to him? Yes, you tell the people until they say, “What?” The scholar, the scholar leaves. Does he leave? Where are they?

The Shaykh : What do you think of this? For example, if he finishes the sermon or the prayer, does the Shaykh say to him, “I said so and so”? Did you receive any report from Allah and His Messenger that the way He turns hearts is like this? Or some people say, “Between two fingers of the Merciful One”? I seek refuge in Allah from the accursed Shaytan. This is severe, and I seek refuge in Allah. We ask Allah for well-being. I do not clarify it to him, and the matter you mentioned is correct, because the people might understand it in this way, which is wrong. Yes, not during the sermon, because confusion arises in it, but if he finishes the sermon, for example, at the time of prayer, he says to him, “Like this,” and clarifies it between them.

The questioner : The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), when he compared [it] to 'Amr, pointed to his eye. Okay.

The Shaykh : If he says this regarding “Hearing and Seeing,” that is less severe. But if he says it regarding the fingers, what do I know? That the fingers are in this manner, or that the turning is in this manner, or that it is between two fingers in this manner? Who said this? Then, if we also fear that even in the case of “Hearing and Seeing,” if we fear that the common people will misunderstand it and that the intention is not to affirm hearing and sight, we leave it. It is not obligatory.

The questioner : How do we exit the visitation?

The Shaykh : Yes, he did it once. Does he do it every time he reads “Hearing and Seeing”?

The questioner : No, it is not intended as an actual action.

The Shaykh : The intention of his action is to affirm that. Meaning that he hears with hearing and sees with sight.