The ruling on forgetting "Allahu Akbar" for the one who praises Allah when rising from bowing
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The questioner : If one rises from bowing and says "Allahu Akbar" while forgetting, does he say "Allahu Akbar" when he straightens up, or does he not say it?
The Shaykh : No, he does not say it, because here he has recited a remembrance that he believes is prescribed, which is the takbir. This means that he recited the prescribed remembrance for the transition, but he forgot and recited something that is not established. So we tell him: Do not say "Allahu Akbar," but rather prostrate for forgetfulness before the taslim because you left an obligatory act. Do you understand? However, if he remembers before he straightens up that the prescribed remembrance is to say "Allahu Akbar," then he says it here, because he remembered before the time for it had passed.
The presenter : May our Lord grant you well-being.
The questioner : He does not say "Our Lord, and to You is praise." That is, "Our Lord, and to You is praise" is said after standing up.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : No, no, that analogy is not correct. Or, may Allah have mercy on him, he says that if he intends the takbir of ihram, the transition to bowing, which is a recommended practice, then it is as if he intended a pillar and a recommended practice. This intention would be like the excess over the sa' in the fitrah.
The Shaykh : Hm? Yes, this is the aspect that makes it an incorrect analogy.
The presenter : Yes.
The questioner : If he says the takbir and prolongs it until no one can drink from it, meaning he delayed the takbir, so he sees that he should advance the takbir so that he can drink after them.
The Shaykh : No, or he does the recommended practice and no one from the people is affected.
The questioner : That is, he does not do this except while he is prostrating.
The Shaykh : That is a mistake. I have seen some people who do not do it except when they prostrate, and they do not say "Allahu Akbar" except when they stand up. According to the madhhab, his prayer is not valid. The stronger position is that it is obligatory for this to be in the transition itself, because after the transition there is a prescribed remembrance, so this does not enter with that.
The Shaykh : No, he does not say it, because here he has recited a remembrance that he believes is prescribed, which is the takbir. This means that he recited the prescribed remembrance for the transition, but he forgot and recited something that is not established. So we tell him: Do not say "Allahu Akbar," but rather prostrate for forgetfulness before the taslim because you left an obligatory act. Do you understand? However, if he remembers before he straightens up that the prescribed remembrance is to say "Allahu Akbar," then he says it here, because he remembered before the time for it had passed.
The presenter : May our Lord grant you well-being.
The questioner : He does not say "Our Lord, and to You is praise." That is, "Our Lord, and to You is praise" is said after standing up.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : No, no, that analogy is not correct. Or, may Allah have mercy on him, he says that if he intends the takbir of ihram, the transition to bowing, which is a recommended practice, then it is as if he intended a pillar and a recommended practice. This intention would be like the excess over the sa' in the fitrah.
The Shaykh : Hm? Yes, this is the aspect that makes it an incorrect analogy.
The presenter : Yes.
The questioner : If he says the takbir and prolongs it until no one can drink from it, meaning he delayed the takbir, so he sees that he should advance the takbir so that he can drink after them.
The Shaykh : No, or he does the recommended practice and no one from the people is affected.
The questioner : That is, he does not do this except while he is prostrating.
The Shaykh : That is a mistake. I have seen some people who do not do it except when they prostrate, and they do not say "Allahu Akbar" except when they stand up. According to the madhhab, his prayer is not valid. The stronger position is that it is obligatory for this to be in the transition itself, because after the transition there is a prescribed remembrance, so this does not enter with that.
Source
قناة «فضيلة الشيخ محمد بن صالح العثيمين»، 199 - ما الحكم لو رفع من الركوع وقال لله أكبر ناسياً؟ قواعد ابن رجب - ابن عثيمين — youtube.com
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