What is the ruling on saying the takbir before entering the row and then walking to it?
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The questioner : The questioner asks: What is the ruling on saying the takbir before the row and bowing, then walking to the row to catch the bowing?
The Shaykh : Saying the takbir before the row, before entering the row, and then walking. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) forbade this, for Abu Bakrah (may Allah be pleased with him) entered the mosque while the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) was bowing, so he hurried and bowed before entering the row, then entered the row. When the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) finished his prayer, he asked who had done that? Abu Bakrah said, "It was me." The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said:Sunan Abi Dawud 683Sahih (Al-Albani), "ta'd" with a dammah on the 'ayn. We take it from "ta'd" (to return). One who returns returns, meaning do not return to what you did.
And this wording suffices for the saying "do not return" and the saying "do not return." Therefore, the correct narration in the two Sahihs is "do not return" with a dammah on the 'ayn. I only said it suffices for them because if he forbade him from returning and was silent about ordering him to repeat it, that indicates that repeating it is not obligatory. And if he forbade him from returning, the prohibition of rushing is included in it. On this basis, there is no need to cite these two narrations outside the two Sahihs, which are "do not return" and "do not return," if the narration is correct. The result is that the one who does that is forbidden from doing it, and it is said:
If someone were to say: If I reach the row and say the takbir, the takbir of intention, and bow, and the imam rises, and I do not know whether I caught him in the bowing or he rose before I caught him, what do I do? What did we say, O Muhammad?
Another questioner : If you catch the bowing, it is not required that you be in the state of remembrance if you catch the bowing and follow the imam.
The Shaykh : What did I say?
Another questioner : That if the sick person comes and bows, and the imam rises, but it is not permissible for you to bow, or is it?
The Shaykh : This is what I said.
Another questioner : Yes, indeed, the truth.
The Shaykh : Fine. We say that if it is more likely in his mind that he caught him, then he has caught him. Then, if this is the first rak'ah, the imam bears the prostration for forgetfulness for him because he will conclude the prayer with the imam. And if this is the second rak'ah or any after that, he prostrates when he makes up the prayer, two prostrations before or after? After the salam, after the salam, because the rule in doubt, if the likelihood is present, is to build upon it and prostrate after the salam. Fine. And if it is not more likely in his mind that he caught the imam, nor that he did not catch him, and he is in doubt, then he cancels this rak'ah and completes the prayer and prostrates before the salam, prostrates before the salam. Fine.
The Shaykh : Saying the takbir before the row, before entering the row, and then walking. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) forbade this, for Abu Bakrah (may Allah be pleased with him) entered the mosque while the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) was bowing, so he hurried and bowed before entering the row, then entered the row. When the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) finished his prayer, he asked who had done that? Abu Bakrah said, "It was me." The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said:
May Allah increase your eagerness! But do not do it again.
زادك الله حرصا ولا تعدAnd this wording suffices for the saying "do not return" and the saying "do not return." Therefore, the correct narration in the two Sahihs is "do not return" with a dammah on the 'ayn. I only said it suffices for them because if he forbade him from returning and was silent about ordering him to repeat it, that indicates that repeating it is not obligatory. And if he forbade him from returning, the prohibition of rushing is included in it. On this basis, there is no need to cite these two narrations outside the two Sahihs, which are "do not return" and "do not return," if the narration is correct. The result is that the one who does that is forbidden from doing it, and it is said:
Walk
امشAnd upon you is calmness until you reach the row, so whatever you catch, pray, and whatever you do not catch, complete.
وعليك السكينة حتى تصل إلى الصف فما أدركت فصل وما لم تدرك فأتم.If someone were to say: If I reach the row and say the takbir, the takbir of intention, and bow, and the imam rises, and I do not know whether I caught him in the bowing or he rose before I caught him, what do I do? What did we say, O Muhammad?
Another questioner : If you catch the bowing, it is not required that you be in the state of remembrance if you catch the bowing and follow the imam.
The Shaykh : What did I say?
Another questioner : That if the sick person comes and bows, and the imam rises, but it is not permissible for you to bow, or is it?
The Shaykh : This is what I said.
Another questioner : Yes, indeed, the truth.
The Shaykh : Fine. We say that if it is more likely in his mind that he caught him, then he has caught him. Then, if this is the first rak'ah, the imam bears the prostration for forgetfulness for him because he will conclude the prayer with the imam. And if this is the second rak'ah or any after that, he prostrates when he makes up the prayer, two prostrations before or after? After the salam, after the salam, because the rule in doubt, if the likelihood is present, is to build upon it and prostrate after the salam. Fine. And if it is not more likely in his mind that he caught the imam, nor that he did not catch him, and he is in doubt, then he cancels this rak'ah and completes the prayer and prostrates before the salam, prostrates before the salam. Fine.
Source
قناة «فضيلة الشيخ محمد بن صالح العثيمين»، 11 - 18 - دروس وفتاوى المسجد الحرام للعام 1407 هـ - الدرس الحادي عشر - الشيخ محمد بن صالح العثيمين — youtube.com
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