Is there a difference between forgetting the prayer and forgetting within the prayer?
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The questioner : Is there a difference between forgetting the prayer and forgetting in the prayer of Abd al-Rahman Ibrahim, in terms of meaning and in terms of ruling? In terms of
The Shaykh : meaning.
The questioner : In terms of meaning, forgetting the prayer is not being inside it but outside of it, and the one who forgets in the prayer is engaged with it, and if he forgets some of it, and in terms of, or he is blameworthy if he forgets it.
The Shaykh : This ruling, as he says, is blameworthy; you do not answer here.
The questioner : Forgetting the prayer, this is blameworthy.
The Shaykh : Husayn.
The questioner : Forgetting the prayer, then it extends to the entire prayer itself.
The Shaykh : Meaning negligence of it, negligence toward it, and turning away from it, is that right? Good. And forgetting in it?
The questioner : In the pillars, it is in the prayer, then he forgets some of its pillars or its obligations or its recommended practices.
The Shaykh : Meaning forgetfulness, forgetfulness in it. Good. In terms of ruling.
The questioner : From the perspective of disbelief, forgetting the prayer is blameworthy, whereas forgetting in the prayer is excused. Yes, indeed.
The Shaykh : So it is excused. Well done, may Allah bless you. The evidence that forgetting the prayer is blameworthy, O Ahmad,
The questioner : about the prayer, and[Al-Ma'un 107:5].
The Shaykh : And those who are. Like this, and those who are.
The questioner : And those who are.
The Shaykh : I say the verse is[Al-Ma'un 107:5].
The questioner : Those who are the slaves.
The Shaykh : The one, yes.
The Shaykh : meaning.
The questioner : In terms of meaning, forgetting the prayer is not being inside it but outside of it, and the one who forgets in the prayer is engaged with it, and if he forgets some of it, and in terms of, or he is blameworthy if he forgets it.
The Shaykh : This ruling, as he says, is blameworthy; you do not answer here.
The questioner : Forgetting the prayer, this is blameworthy.
The Shaykh : Husayn.
The questioner : Forgetting the prayer, then it extends to the entire prayer itself.
The Shaykh : Meaning negligence of it, negligence toward it, and turning away from it, is that right? Good. And forgetting in it?
The questioner : In the pillars, it is in the prayer, then he forgets some of its pillars or its obligations or its recommended practices.
The Shaykh : Meaning forgetfulness, forgetfulness in it. Good. In terms of ruling.
The questioner : From the perspective of disbelief, forgetting the prayer is blameworthy, whereas forgetting in the prayer is excused. Yes, indeed.
The Shaykh : So it is excused. Well done, may Allah bless you. The evidence that forgetting the prayer is blameworthy, O Ahmad,
The questioner : about the prayer, and
[But] who are heedless of their prayer -
الَّذِينَ هُمْ عَن صَلَاتِهِمْ سَاهُونَThe Shaykh : And those who are. Like this, and those who are.
The questioner : And those who are.
The Shaykh : I say the verse is
[But] who are heedless of their prayer -
الَّذِينَ هُمْ عَن صَلَاتِهِمْ سَاهُونَThe questioner : Those who are the slaves.
The Shaykh : The one, yes.
Source
قناة «فضيلة الشيخ محمد بن صالح العثيمين»، 1967هل هناك فرقٌ بين السهو عن الصلاة والسهو في الصلاة📔 الشرح الممتع على زاد المستقنع - ابن عثيمين — youtube.com
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