The Ruling on the Verse of Stoning and the Abrogation of Recitation
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The questioner : I acknowledge receipt.
The Shaykh : Yes, it is said that the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) turned toward the Sacred Mosque when he arrived in Madinah, out of consideration for the Children of Israel, the Jews. And the first thing he did upon arriving in Madinah was to desire to agree with them in what he had not been forbidden from.
The questioner : What? He died weak, as it is said.
The Shaykh : They say:Sahih Muslim 1452a The scholars (may Allah have mercy on them) answered regarding this by saying that this change occurred at the end of the Messenger's (peace and blessings be upon him) life, and some of the Companions did not know about it, so they were reciting it, saying "O Muhammad" in one place.
The questioner : Regarding the abrogation of recitation: the Qur'an is not established except by mass transmission (tawatur), and the abrogated recitation comes without mass transmission. How is this reconciled?
The Shaykh : May Allah bless you. As for the people, the verse of stoning is established in the two Sahihs from 'Umar, where he addressed the people and no one opposed him in any way, and there is no problem with it. But the problem is the hadith of 'A'ishah regarding breastfeeding, because only Muslim narrated it, and al-Bukhari did not narrate it. And because there is a problem in establishing a Qur'anic verse by a single transmission and then establishing that it was abrogated. For this reason, some scholars criticized this hadith and said this hadith is not authentic, because it contradicts the saying of Allah the Exalted:[Al-Hijr 15:9] But the majority accepted it and made it an example of what was abrogated in both its wording and its ruling.
The questioner : And the abrogation of each of them is to a substitute. Then they said they recited it and it was written down, and what is written down, meaning you estimate it to be less than.
The Shaykh : No, no, it is not correct, because "dun" (less than) is not used with the letter "ha" except with "min" and "ba," but "ila" (to) with "dun" is not correct. Yes.
The questioner : The abrogation of reports: do we say it is not abrogated in wording? Is it not abrogated in ruling?
The Shaykh : Abrogation does not occur except in rulings. As for reports, it is not possible for a report to be abrogated by a report.
The questioner : Wording by wording, meaning recitation.
The Shaykh : It is not possible to mock the report ever.
The questioner : I mean recitation, meaning for example a story in the Qur'an, then its recitation was abrogated, not its establishment?
The Shaykh : And I do not remember this.
The Shaykh : Yes, it is said that the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) turned toward the Sacred Mosque when he arrived in Madinah, out of consideration for the Children of Israel, the Jews. And the first thing he did upon arriving in Madinah was to desire to agree with them in what he had not been forbidden from.
The questioner : What? He died weak, as it is said.
The Shaykh : They say:
Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) died and it was before that time (found) in the Holy Qur'an (and recited by the Muslims).
توفي رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم وهن فيما يقرأ من القرآنThe questioner : Regarding the abrogation of recitation: the Qur'an is not established except by mass transmission (tawatur), and the abrogated recitation comes without mass transmission. How is this reconciled?
The Shaykh : May Allah bless you. As for the people, the verse of stoning is established in the two Sahihs from 'Umar, where he addressed the people and no one opposed him in any way, and there is no problem with it. But the problem is the hadith of 'A'ishah regarding breastfeeding, because only Muslim narrated it, and al-Bukhari did not narrate it. And because there is a problem in establishing a Qur'anic verse by a single transmission and then establishing that it was abrogated. For this reason, some scholars criticized this hadith and said this hadith is not authentic, because it contradicts the saying of Allah the Exalted:
Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian.
إِنَّا نَحْنُ نَزَّلْنَا الذِّكْرَ وَإِنَّا لَهُ لَحَافِظُونَThe questioner : And the abrogation of each of them is to a substitute. Then they said they recited it and it was written down, and what is written down, meaning you estimate it to be less than.
The Shaykh : No, no, it is not correct, because "dun" (less than) is not used with the letter "ha" except with "min" and "ba," but "ila" (to) with "dun" is not correct. Yes.
The questioner : The abrogation of reports: do we say it is not abrogated in wording? Is it not abrogated in ruling?
The Shaykh : Abrogation does not occur except in rulings. As for reports, it is not possible for a report to be abrogated by a report.
The questioner : Wording by wording, meaning recitation.
The Shaykh : It is not possible to mock the report ever.
The questioner : I mean recitation, meaning for example a story in the Qur'an, then its recitation was abrogated, not its establishment?
The Shaykh : And I do not remember this.
Source
قناة «فضيلة الشيخ محمد بن صالح العثيمين»، 54 - 82 مناقشة حول بعض مسائل النسخ - نظم الورقات - ابن عثيمين — youtube.com
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