The Ruling on Rising Against the Ruling Open Sinner
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The questioner : One of the students of knowledge said that it is permissible to rise against the open sinner in authority, but with two conditions: first, that we have the ability to rise against him, and second, that we are certain that the harm is less than the benefit, by preponderance. He said this is the methodology of the Salaf. We ask for clarification of this issue, as he mentioned the open sinner but did not say that we saw clear disbelief from him. Please clarify what is unclear to us. May Allah protect you. He also said that the issue of declaring as disbelievers those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed, among the rulers, is a matter of independent legal reasoning (ijtihad), and that most of the Imams of the Salaf declare as disbelievers those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed, absolutely, meaning they did not distinguish between those who do judge.
The Shaykh : The question is very important, as young men from another country called him and want the answer tonight. We said, may Allah bless you, this man knows nothing about the methodology of the Salafi. The Salaf are in agreement that it is not permissible to rise against the Imams, whether they are righteous or wicked, and that it is obligatory to fight with them, and that it is obligatory to attend the festivals and the Friday prayer that they lead for the people. They used to lead the people in prayer, and if they want something of this, let them refer to the Al-Wasitiyyah Creed, where it is mentioned that the people of the Sunnah and the community hold that Hajj, jihad, and festivals are to be established with the rulers, whether they are righteous or wicked. This is his wording, may Allah have mercy on him. So tell him that he only mentioned that it is the methodology of the Salaf; he is between two things: either he is lying about the Salaf, or he is ignorant of their methodology. If you do not know, that is a calamity, and if you do know, the calamity is greater. And tell him: if the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) saidSahih al-Bukhari 7055, 7056, how can this brother say that the methodology of the Salaf is rising against the open sinner? That means they explicitly contradicted the words of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him).
Then, this brother in reality does not know the reality. Those who rose against the kings, whether for a religious reason or a daily reason, did the situation change from bad to better? No, absolutely not, but from bad to much worse. And look now, all the countries have turned into something similar.
As for the one who is not protected by Allah, this is also not correct. It is not the majority view of the Salaf that they declare disbelief absolutely. Rather, the famous view from Ibn Abbas is that it is disbelief less than disbelief. The three verses are all in one context, one sequence: the disbelievers, the wrongdoers, the open sinners. And the words of Allah do not contradict one another. So each verse is understood in the state in which it has that description. The verse of disbelief is understood in the state where one is a disbeliever, the verse of wrongdoing in the state where one is a wrongdoer, and the verse of open sinfulness in the state where one is an open sinner. Do you understand? So advise these brothers, the student of knowledge who says to the students: tell him to fear Allah in himself and not to mislead the Muslims. Tomorrow this group will emerge and destroy, or they will have an incorrect perception of the committed brothers, all because of these incorrect fatwas.
The Shaykh : The question is very important, as young men from another country called him and want the answer tonight. We said, may Allah bless you, this man knows nothing about the methodology of the Salafi. The Salaf are in agreement that it is not permissible to rise against the Imams, whether they are righteous or wicked, and that it is obligatory to fight with them, and that it is obligatory to attend the festivals and the Friday prayer that they lead for the people. They used to lead the people in prayer, and if they want something of this, let them refer to the Al-Wasitiyyah Creed, where it is mentioned that the people of the Sunnah and the community hold that Hajj, jihad, and festivals are to be established with the rulers, whether they are righteous or wicked. This is his wording, may Allah have mercy on him. So tell him that he only mentioned that it is the methodology of the Salaf; he is between two things: either he is lying about the Salaf, or he is ignorant of their methodology. If you do not know, that is a calamity, and if you do know, the calamity is greater. And tell him: if the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) said
unless we noticed him having open Kufr (disbelief) for which we would have a proof with us from Allah
إلا أن تروا كفرا بواحا عندكم فيه من الله برهان.Then, this brother in reality does not know the reality. Those who rose against the kings, whether for a religious reason or a daily reason, did the situation change from bad to better? No, absolutely not, but from bad to much worse. And look now, all the countries have turned into something similar.
As for the one who is not protected by Allah, this is also not correct. It is not the majority view of the Salaf that they declare disbelief absolutely. Rather, the famous view from Ibn Abbas is that it is disbelief less than disbelief. The three verses are all in one context, one sequence: the disbelievers, the wrongdoers, the open sinners. And the words of Allah do not contradict one another. So each verse is understood in the state in which it has that description. The verse of disbelief is understood in the state where one is a disbeliever, the verse of wrongdoing in the state where one is a wrongdoer, and the verse of open sinfulness in the state where one is an open sinner. Do you understand? So advise these brothers, the student of knowledge who says to the students: tell him to fear Allah in himself and not to mislead the Muslims. Tomorrow this group will emerge and destroy, or they will have an incorrect perception of the committed brothers, all because of these incorrect fatwas.
Source
قناة «فضيلة الشيخ محمد بن صالح العثيمين»، 180- حكم الخروجِ على الحاكمِ الفاسق - ابن عثيمين — youtube.com
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