The ruling on removing sorcery with sorcery and with the lawful ruqyah (healing by Qur'anic recitation)
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The questioner:
What is the authenticity of the hadith: "No one can remove sorcery except a sorcerer"? And if it is authentic, what is its meaning, given that some scholars and shaykhs remove sorcery with the correct, lawful ruqyah?
The Shaykh:
This will come up, and there is a hadith regarding it. This is the statement of al-Hasan al-Basri, who said, "No one can remove sorcery except a sorcerer." This will come up, if Allah wills, in the chapter on support (nasrah), and support is removing sorcery from the one who has been bewitched. And his statement, "No one can remove sorcery with sorcery except a sorcerer," as for removing sorcery with lawful supplications, this is not sorcery; this is the prescribed ruqyah. It is not sorcery. So removing sorcery with sorcery like it, this is what is forbidden. And this is the meaning of al-Hasan's statement, "No one can remove sorcery except sorcery," meaning if sorcery is removed with sorcery like it, then this is what is prescribed. But if sorcery is removed with supplications and the lawful ruqyah, then this is prescribed and is not sorcery. That is, on the traveler.
The questioner:
So we say, if it is authentic, the practicing scholars are those who read the Shari'ah texts.
The Shaykh:
The lawful ruqyah is not sorcery; rather, it is a ruqyah from the Book of Allah, Mighty and Majestic. Yes.
What is the authenticity of the hadith: "No one can remove sorcery except a sorcerer"? And if it is authentic, what is its meaning, given that some scholars and shaykhs remove sorcery with the correct, lawful ruqyah?
The Shaykh:
This will come up, and there is a hadith regarding it. This is the statement of al-Hasan al-Basri, who said, "No one can remove sorcery except a sorcerer." This will come up, if Allah wills, in the chapter on support (nasrah), and support is removing sorcery from the one who has been bewitched. And his statement, "No one can remove sorcery with sorcery except a sorcerer," as for removing sorcery with lawful supplications, this is not sorcery; this is the prescribed ruqyah. It is not sorcery. So removing sorcery with sorcery like it, this is what is forbidden. And this is the meaning of al-Hasan's statement, "No one can remove sorcery except sorcery," meaning if sorcery is removed with sorcery like it, then this is what is prescribed. But if sorcery is removed with supplications and the lawful ruqyah, then this is prescribed and is not sorcery. That is, on the traveler.
The questioner:
So we say, if it is authentic, the practicing scholars are those who read the Shari'ah texts.
The Shaykh:
The lawful ruqyah is not sorcery; rather, it is a ruqyah from the Book of Allah, Mighty and Majestic. Yes.
Source
مدى صحة قول لا يفك السحر إلا ساحر — alfawzan.live
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