The Ruling on Striking for Discipline and Education, and Denying It
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The questioner:
He says: May Allah reward you, Honorable Shaykh. Recently, there has been a lot of talk about striking for education, claiming that it is contrary to modern upbringing. Is there anything wrong with the belief of the one who says this, especially since it contradicts the texts?
The Shaykh:
The Shaykh: Striking is not absolutely permissible, nor is it absolutely prohibited; it depends on the need. Striking for discipline, when it is needed, is a great educational method. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: Due to the situation, he says: “O Allah, how is it with the wives who acknowledge your authority? Forgive them.” [Al-Ma'idah 5:37] “As for the wives who acknowledge your authority, forgive them.” [An-Nisa 4:34]
Striking for punishment, when it is needed, is a good means, an educational means. No one denies it except an ignorant person, one ignorant of the Sunnah. If a person follows the Sunnah but denies it, saying, "Even if the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) said it," he is to be feared regarding his jurisprudence, because he is rejecting the saying of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him). But most of them are ignorant; they take their studies from the West and do not study the Shari'ah or the texts. No, perhaps they said this out of ignorance. But if they intentionally do this while knowing that the Shari'ah has brought it, they are to be feared of falling into disbelief. Or striking, and likewise Allah has made striking with the lash obligatory. The lash is the side, the lash is the side, completing each of them. The lash is the striking. The sitting is the striking. The striking is prescribed in Islam, in the Book and the Sunnah. Sometimes it is an obligatory hudud punishment, and sometimes it is a discretionary punishment done when needed.
The questioner:
He says: And is there anything wrong with the belief of the one who says that?
The Shaykh:
In our belief, it is a deficiency that may reach the level of disbelief if he knows that the Messenger said it and rejects it, saying, "Even if the Messenger said it." This is disbelief. And Allah the Exalted and Majestic is He mentioned the punishment for the one who reads.[An-Nur 24:4] Thirty lashes, I am certain, by Allah. Yes.
The presenter:
May Allah reward you,
He says: May Allah reward you, Honorable Shaykh. Recently, there has been a lot of talk about striking for education, claiming that it is contrary to modern upbringing. Is there anything wrong with the belief of the one who says this, especially since it contradicts the texts?
The Shaykh:
The Shaykh: Striking is not absolutely permissible, nor is it absolutely prohibited; it depends on the need. Striking for discipline, when it is needed, is a great educational method. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said:
Command your children to pray
مروا أولادكم في الصلاةThey will wish to get out of the Fire, but never are they to emerge therefrom, and for them is an enduring punishment.
مِنَ النَّارِforsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them
وَاهْجُرُوهُنَّ فِي الْمَضَاجِعِ وَاضْرِبُوهُنَّStriking for punishment, when it is needed, is a good means, an educational means. No one denies it except an ignorant person, one ignorant of the Sunnah. If a person follows the Sunnah but denies it, saying, "Even if the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) said it," he is to be feared regarding his jurisprudence, because he is rejecting the saying of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him). But most of them are ignorant; they take their studies from the West and do not study the Shari'ah or the texts. No, perhaps they said this out of ignorance. But if they intentionally do this while knowing that the Shari'ah has brought it, they are to be feared of falling into disbelief. Or striking, and likewise Allah has made striking with the lash obligatory. The lash is the side, the lash is the side, completing each of them. The lash is the striking. The sitting is the striking. The striking is prescribed in Islam, in the Book and the Sunnah. Sometimes it is an obligatory hudud punishment, and sometimes it is a discretionary punishment done when needed.
The questioner:
He says: And is there anything wrong with the belief of the one who says that?
The Shaykh:
In our belief, it is a deficiency that may reach the level of disbelief if he knows that the Messenger said it and rejects it, saying, "Even if the Messenger said it." This is disbelief. And Allah the Exalted and Majestic is He mentioned the punishment for the one who reads.
And those who accuse chaste women and then do not produce four witnesses - lash them
وَالَّذِينَ يَرْمُونَ الْمُحْصَنَاتِ ثُمَّ لَمْ يَأْتُوا بِأَرْبَعَةِ شُهَدَاءَ فَاجْلِدُوهُمْThe presenter:
May Allah reward you,
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