The ruling on stoning the pillars on behalf of another person without their permission, and cursing during Hajj
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Question:
Honorable Shaykh, a woman asks: A woman performed Hajj, and she only intended to stone the pillar. Her companions said, “We will perform the stoning on your behalf,” and this was because of the crowd at the pillars. They stoned on her behalf while she was not aware, and out of anger she said, “May Allah shower seventy curses upon you.” Then, on the second day, she stoned the first and second pillars. The question is: Is her stoning valid? And does she have any obligation regarding the cursing that came from her?
Answer:
In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. All praise is due to Allah, Lord of the worlds, and may Allah send prayers and blessings upon our Prophet Muhammad, and upon his family and his Companions. As for the cursing that came from her, this is a mistake and a sin. She must seek forgiveness and repent to Him, especially since she is performing Hajj. Allah, Glorious and Exalted is He, says:[Al-Baqarah 2:197] from [Al-Baqarah 2:197]. This is a great error, and she must repent to Allah, Mighty and Majestic, and seek the forgiveness of those about whom this came from her, if that is possible. As for the stoning of the pillars, they stoned on her behalf while she did not consent to it; this is a mistake on their part, because it is a condition in agency that the one who is able to perform the act be the one to act as the agent. So they erred in this. It is obligatory for them, when they saw that she did not consent to the agency, to enable her to perform the stoning herself. Both parties erred, neither they nor anyone else.
As for the stoning, we do not know the manner of her stoning on the second day. Did she start with the small one, then the large one, then the middle one?
The order must be followed. If she started with the small one, then the middle one, then the large one for the first day, and then returned and started with the small one, then the middle one, then the large one for the second day, then this is valid. But if she neglected the order, the stoning is not valid, and she owes one fidyah (ransom payment) which she slaughters in Makkah or delegates someone to slaughter, to be distributed to the poor of the Haram. Yes.
Honorable Shaykh, a woman asks: A woman performed Hajj, and she only intended to stone the pillar. Her companions said, “We will perform the stoning on your behalf,” and this was because of the crowd at the pillars. They stoned on her behalf while she was not aware, and out of anger she said, “May Allah shower seventy curses upon you.” Then, on the second day, she stoned the first and second pillars. The question is: Is her stoning valid? And does she have any obligation regarding the cursing that came from her?
Answer:
In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. All praise is due to Allah, Lord of the worlds, and may Allah send prayers and blessings upon our Prophet Muhammad, and upon his family and his Companions. As for the cursing that came from her, this is a mistake and a sin. She must seek forgiveness and repent to Him, especially since she is performing Hajj. Allah, Glorious and Exalted is He, says:
so whoever has made Hajj obligatory upon himself therein
فَمَن فَرَضَ فِيهِنَّHajj is [during] well-known months, so whoever has made Hajj obligatory upon himself therein [by entering the state of ihram], there is [to be for him] no sexual relations and no disobedience and no disputing during Hajj. And whatever good you do - Allah knows it. And take provisions, but indeed, the best provision is fear of Allah. And fear Me, O you of understanding.
الْحَجَّ فَلَا رَفَثَ وَلَا فُسُوقَ وَلَا جِدَالَ فِي الْحَجِّAs for the stoning, we do not know the manner of her stoning on the second day. Did she start with the small one, then the large one, then the middle one?
The order must be followed. If she started with the small one, then the middle one, then the large one for the first day, and then returned and started with the small one, then the middle one, then the large one for the second day, then this is valid. But if she neglected the order, the stoning is not valid, and she owes one fidyah (ransom payment) which she slaughters in Makkah or delegates someone to slaughter, to be distributed to the poor of the Haram. Yes.
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