Declaring a specific person a disbeliever and the ruling on the Mu'tazilah
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The questioner:
May Allah reward you. This questioner asks: What is the ruling on declaring a specific person a disbeliever if we have verified that he has committed shirk (associating partners with Allah)? And what is the ruling on a person whose state is unknown in a country like Egypt?
The Shaykh:
If he acts in a way that constitutes disbelief, he is a disbeliever, and he is a specific individual. Pharaoh was a disbeliever, Abu Talib was a disbeliever, Abu Lahab was a disbeliever, and Abu Jahl was a disbeliever; they are specific individuals. If you find a person who insults the religion, he is a disbeliever until he repents. Likewise, if he worships graves and the people in the graves, calling upon them for aid and help, he is a specific disbeliever until he repents. If he says Muhammad is a liar, he is a specific disbeliever who deserves to be killed by the one in authority. Or if he insults his Lord, he is a specific disbeliever. Or if he says there is no Paradise and no Hell, that it is all a lie, he is a specific disbeliever. We ask Allah for safety. Yes. If evidence is established against him, he is a disbeliever, a specific disbeliever. Yes.
Another questioner:
May you live long. The Mu'tazilah now believe that Paradise and Hell do not exist. They do not exist in Paradise. The Mu'tazilah now...
The Shaykh:
No, the Mu'tazili believes in Paradise and Hell, but their existence now... they will exist after the Day of Judgment. Yes.
Another questioner:
Then, a minute.
The Shaykh:
They exist.
Another questioner:
This one denies it.
The Shaykh:
He says they exist, he has no doubt, they do not exist.
Another questioner:
Amen.
The Shaykh:
They declare disbelievers by denying the attributes, they declare disbelievers by denying the attributes.
Another questioner:
And they are the people of the intermediate position. Is the intermediate position from the people of innovation, or do we not greet them?
The Shaykh:
We do not greet them, and they are among the disbelievers, meaning they lied to Allah and His Messenger by denying the attributes, like the Jahmiyyah. This is the correct view regarding them.
Another questioner:
Correct, no problem.
The Shaykh:
Yes. May Allah keep you safe.
May Allah reward you. This questioner asks: What is the ruling on declaring a specific person a disbeliever if we have verified that he has committed shirk (associating partners with Allah)? And what is the ruling on a person whose state is unknown in a country like Egypt?
The Shaykh:
If he acts in a way that constitutes disbelief, he is a disbeliever, and he is a specific individual. Pharaoh was a disbeliever, Abu Talib was a disbeliever, Abu Lahab was a disbeliever, and Abu Jahl was a disbeliever; they are specific individuals. If you find a person who insults the religion, he is a disbeliever until he repents. Likewise, if he worships graves and the people in the graves, calling upon them for aid and help, he is a specific disbeliever until he repents. If he says Muhammad is a liar, he is a specific disbeliever who deserves to be killed by the one in authority. Or if he insults his Lord, he is a specific disbeliever. Or if he says there is no Paradise and no Hell, that it is all a lie, he is a specific disbeliever. We ask Allah for safety. Yes. If evidence is established against him, he is a disbeliever, a specific disbeliever. Yes.
Another questioner:
May you live long. The Mu'tazilah now believe that Paradise and Hell do not exist. They do not exist in Paradise. The Mu'tazilah now...
The Shaykh:
No, the Mu'tazili believes in Paradise and Hell, but their existence now... they will exist after the Day of Judgment. Yes.
Another questioner:
Then, a minute.
The Shaykh:
They exist.
Another questioner:
This one denies it.
The Shaykh:
He says they exist, he has no doubt, they do not exist.
Another questioner:
Amen.
The Shaykh:
They declare disbelievers by denying the attributes, they declare disbelievers by denying the attributes.
Another questioner:
And they are the people of the intermediate position. Is the intermediate position from the people of innovation, or do we not greet them?
The Shaykh:
We do not greet them, and they are among the disbelievers, meaning they lied to Allah and His Messenger by denying the attributes, like the Jahmiyyah. This is the correct view regarding them.
Another questioner:
Correct, no problem.
The Shaykh:
Yes. May Allah keep you safe.
Source
فتاوى الحج 1410 هـ - 13 — archive.org (30:17)
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