The ruling on the ma'mum (one praying behind the imam) preceding the imam in saying "Ameen"
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The questioner: The known conditions of repentance.
The Shaykh: They are conditions or a container.
The questioner: Their children, Shaykh, if... if... they had children.
The Shaykh: Children in a state of janabah (major ritual impurity). Or no, what is it, how much is the prayer, everyone? May Allah bless you. In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. Do you have in Algeria a leader who does not say "Ameen" after al-Fatihah (Surat al-Fatihah) aloud?
The questioner: My brother Abdullah.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner: There is nothing.
The Shaykh: And in the Maliki school, there are not those who worship, meaning they are not Malikis,
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh: Um?
The questioner: Its name.
The Shaykh: Ah. You must observe this sunnah (recommended practice) that the congregation of worshippers has neglected, which is their preceding the imam in saying "Ameen," because the general principle we were discussing earlier in that place is what made the imam concerned with it until the end of the hadith. Here, regarding the interpretation, there is a specific text, which is his saying (peace be upon him) that the heart and mind are with the imam's recitation.
And thus, they are in a position and able to apply this Prophetic command to the "Ameen" of the imam. The reality today, as it has happened, is that the follower precedes the imam in his "Ameen," because the imam, even if he does not follow the sunnah, is supposed to recite the Quranic verse or the leading phrase in a specific way. So, naturally, he must take a breath, because when he says "al-dallin" (the astray), he needs to take a breath, he needs to rest a little. So, when the imam takes a breath, what is "al-dallin"?
They have already preceded him by two "Ameen"s. But this is a second matter: when the imam's recitation is based on the rules of tajwid (the rules of Qur'anic recitation), he will elongate the vowel for a long time, six counts. "Al-dallin" is not yet finished, and they have finished their "Ameen." This is a very ugly form of preceding, and it exposes the one who precedes to losing this great virtue.
Which Allah has bestowed upon His believing servants. May Allah forgive him. If one of us lived, as I say on this occasion, the lifespan of Noah (peace be upon him), to attain in this long life the forgiveness of Allah the Mighty and Majestic, the price would be small. How much more so when our Lord bestows upon His servants that if you observe faith, reflect on the Quran, and are with the imam's saying of "al-dallin," and when you hear the imam's voice begin with "Ameen," you begin with him, then it is the one whose "Ameen" coincides with the "Ameen" of the angels...
The questioner: Meaning, upon.
The Shaykh: Perhaps you two can say this to our brothers, the children, so that they apply this sunnah (recommended practice),
The questioner: I have heard from the brothers that we count the Salafis in Algeria as two million.
The Shaykh: So that they are more.
The questioner: So regarding the book of numbers, a brief advice that they pass around there. The devil's door is open, and if there is, meaning, effort upon him.
The Shaykh: By Allah, my brother, the advice is many and very many. It has become so that we cannot.
The presenter: The second session.
The Shaykh: It has ended. In any case, our advice is brevity and conciseness. Yes. The severe thing is that you study knowledge from its pure springs, which are drawn from the Book and the authentic Sunnah first, and then that you strive to be sincere in your pursuit of knowledge, seeking thereby the pleasure of Allah Blessed and Exalted is He. Then this pleasure necessitates acting upon what you have learned, and not making knowledge an end in itself, but rather a means to know the Shari'ah (Islamic sacred law) by which you draw near to Allah Blessed and Exalted is He. Then let your learning be accompanied by teaching people, for Allah the Exalted has taught you guidance and light, and let that be accompanied by wisdom and calling to what is best, as Allah the Exalted has made clear in the Noble Quran,[Al-An'am 6:45].
The presenter : May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh: Small.
The Shaykh: They are conditions or a container.
The questioner: Their children, Shaykh, if... if... they had children.
The Shaykh: Children in a state of janabah (major ritual impurity). Or no, what is it, how much is the prayer, everyone? May Allah bless you. In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. Do you have in Algeria a leader who does not say "Ameen" after al-Fatihah (Surat al-Fatihah) aloud?
The questioner: My brother Abdullah.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner: There is nothing.
The Shaykh: And in the Maliki school, there are not those who worship, meaning they are not Malikis,
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh: Um?
The questioner: Its name.
The Shaykh: Ah. You must observe this sunnah (recommended practice) that the congregation of worshippers has neglected, which is their preceding the imam in saying "Ameen," because the general principle we were discussing earlier in that place is what made the imam concerned with it until the end of the hadith. Here, regarding the interpretation, there is a specific text, which is his saying (peace be upon him) that
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أولا أن يكونAnd thus, they are in a position and able to apply this Prophetic command to the "Ameen" of the imam. The reality today, as it has happened, is that the follower precedes the imam in his "Ameen," because the imam, even if he does not follow the sunnah, is supposed to recite the Quranic verse or the leading phrase in a specific way. So, naturally, he must take a breath, because when he says "al-dallin" (the astray), he needs to take a breath, he needs to rest a little. So, when the imam takes a breath, what is "al-dallin"?
They have already preceded him by two "Ameen"s. But this is a second matter: when the imam's recitation is based on the rules of tajwid (the rules of Qur'anic recitation), he will elongate the vowel for a long time, six counts. "Al-dallin" is not yet finished, and they have finished their "Ameen." This is a very ugly form of preceding, and it exposes the one who precedes to losing this great virtue.
Which Allah has bestowed upon His believing servants. May Allah forgive him. If one of us lived, as I say on this occasion, the lifespan of Noah (peace be upon him), to attain in this long life the forgiveness of Allah the Mighty and Majestic, the price would be small. How much more so when our Lord bestows upon His servants that if you observe faith, reflect on the Quran, and are with the imam's saying of "al-dallin," and when you hear the imam's voice begin with "Ameen," you begin with him, then it is the one whose "Ameen" coincides with the "Ameen" of the angels...
The questioner: Meaning, upon.
The Shaykh: Perhaps you two can say this to our brothers, the children, so that they apply this sunnah (recommended practice),
The questioner: I have heard from the brothers that we count the Salafis in Algeria as two million.
The Shaykh: So that they are more.
The questioner: So regarding the book of numbers, a brief advice that they pass around there. The devil's door is open, and if there is, meaning, effort upon him.
The Shaykh: By Allah, my brother, the advice is many and very many. It has become so that we cannot.
The presenter: The second session.
The Shaykh: It has ended. In any case, our advice is brevity and conciseness. Yes. The severe thing is that you study knowledge from its pure springs, which are drawn from the Book and the authentic Sunnah first, and then that you strive to be sincere in your pursuit of knowledge, seeking thereby the pleasure of Allah Blessed and Exalted is He. Then this pleasure necessitates acting upon what you have learned, and not making knowledge an end in itself, but rather a means to know the Shari'ah (Islamic sacred law) by which you draw near to Allah Blessed and Exalted is He. Then let your learning be accompanied by teaching people, for Allah the Exalted has taught you guidance and light, and let that be accompanied by wisdom and calling to what is best, as Allah the Exalted has made clear in the Noble Quran,
And praise to Allah, Lord of the worlds.
وَالْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَThe presenter : May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh: Small.
Source
سلسلة الهدى والنور، المجلس 1297 — d3watuna.com (27:33)
The Arabic text is a machine transcription of the audio recording.