The ruling on the hadith of Jibril’s call for help and the story of the People of the Sabbath
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The Shaykh : Peace.
The questioner : Peace be upon you, and Allah’s mercy and blessings.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings, and His forgiveness.
The questioner : How are you?
The Shaykh : I praise Allah to you. How are you?
The questioner : That matter, we praise Him and seek His help.
The Shaykh : Praise be to Allah.
The questioner : I praise the Exalted. Do you have the space, if Allah wills, and the energy to answer some of our questions?
The Shaykh : Please, go ahead.
The questioner : In the name of Allah. It is narrated that Allah intended to swallow a village, so He sent the angel in charge of swallowing, Jibril (peace be upon him). He saw a righteous man who fasted during the day and prayed at night. It is said, and they say, so Jibril paused and said, “O Lord, Your servant so-and-so has not disobeyed You for a blink of an eye.” Allah the Mighty and Majestic said, “Begin with him,” until I heard that they say. Then let me hear the sound of his call for help. Is this statement authentic?
The Shaykh : This is a hadith that is called upon for help. Glory be to Allah. Yes. It is a fabricated hadith. Fabricated. Yes.
The questioner : Well, for example, were there not witnesses to the fact that the righteous ones, as came from Ibn Abbas in the exegesis, and Allah knows best, that Allah the Mighty and Majestic, meaning the replacement of the Children of Israel, the famous story of the People of the Sabbath, that in that time, meaning the people were divided in that time into three groups, a group of them who fell into disobedience, meaning those who caught fish on the Sabbath or set their nets,
The Shaykh : Well, what is the point?
The questioner : The point is, he said, a group did not enjoin what is right.
The Shaykh : The story is known, what is the point?
The questioner : The point of mentioning it is that the righteous ones, meaning they were included in the punishment along with the non-righteous ones in this instance, meaning in this story. Does it mean, of course, it is said that the people of sin, our Lord the Exalted swallowed them into pigs, and it is said the righteous ones were swallowed into monkeys. It is said, it is interpreted, it is said that Ibn Abbas, because the reward is of the same kind as the deed, because the nature of the monkey is always to play and joke and laugh and not care about the thoughts of people and their conditions, or about the thought of what happens to him, I mean. First, this story, secondly, is it also authentic?
The Shaykh : First, we do not have this detail. Some of them were transformed, do not say swallowed.
The questioner : Yes, transformed is the most correct.
The Shaykh : Some of them were transformed into pigs, and they were the sinners, and some of them were transformed into monkeys, and they were those who did not enjoin what is right. We do not have this detail in the Sunnah.
The questioner : Meaning, for example, the righteous ones were included in the punishment.
The Shaykh : Included in the transformation. Ah, yes. We have nothing that supports this or denies it. So our Lord knows it best. Yes. But without a doubt, silence regarding enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong is a wrong. So that is the first story, and even if it is, as we said, the first story called upon for help, if the point of it is only to encourage enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong, then the hadiths on that are numerous and good, and likewise in the Qur’an[Ali 'Imran 3:104]. So we have no need to cite hadiths and stories with no basis for enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong.
The questioner : The scholars of this story that I heard, or some of them say it was mentioned from Ibn al-Qayyim.
The Shaykh : It was mentioned, Ibn al-Qayyim mentions from the Isra’iliyyat whatever comes to mind, he is not narrating from the Messenger of Allah.
The questioner : Well, is there a third witness? It seems I heard, or I just remembered, it is said that an army was attacking the Ka’bah, Aisha was told, perhaps in this hadith, if it was in the wilderness yesterday.
The Shaykh : Yes, this is an authentic hadith.
The questioner : Meaning, they are people even though.
The Shaykh : But what is the connection between the first question?
The questioner : Righteous, broken, meaning I mean transformed in it, or their punishment was binding.
The Shaykh : They were struck by the punishment, but they will be resurrected according to their intentions. So this is what he said to him, “Begin with him,” he will be resurrected according to his intention.
The questioner : Certainly, and if it is not verified, it is not authentic.
The Shaykh : Mm.
The questioner : Well, have you heard of Wahb ibn Munabbih?
The Shaykh : How could I not hear of him, when he is always before me in the books of the Sunnah?
The questioner : What Allah willed, meaning everything said about him is fine.
The Shaykh : He is a man among the men of the two Sahihs.
The questioner : What Allah willed.
The Shaykh : But perhaps you do not mean him. No.
The questioner : It came to me now.
The Shaykh : You do not mean him specifically.
The questioner : No, by Allah, I do not have detailed information about him as was detailed for me. I used to read him, but glory be to Allah, with time I forgot, meaning. In any case, he means he narrated or mentioned that. A tyrant among the tyrants built a palace and raised it, so an old poor woman came and built a hut next to it to take shelter in it. So the tyrant rode one day and went around the palace and saw the hut and said, “Whose is this?” It was said, “It is for a poor woman who takes shelter in it.” So he ordered it to be demolished. So the old woman came and saw it demolished and said, “Who demolished it?” It was said, “The king saw it and demolished it.” So the old woman raised her head to the sky and said, “O my Lord, if I was not present, where were You?” It is said Allah ordered Jibril to strike the palace with those in it and overturn it. Is it possible this, in its wording as you mentioned.
The Shaykh : A story, a story from the Isra’iliyyat. Do not believe it and do not deny it.
The questioner : Do you believe it?
The Shaykh : And do not deny it.
The questioner : And do not deny it.
The Shaykh : But in some of it there is absurdity, “I was absent, where were You?”
The questioner : Yes, meaning it is not proper etiquette to say it.
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The questioner : If such things, do not believe them and do not deny them.
The Shaykh : Yes, except if they contradict the Shari’ah.
The questioner : Peace be upon you, and Allah’s mercy and blessings.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings, and His forgiveness.
The questioner : How are you?
The Shaykh : I praise Allah to you. How are you?
The questioner : That matter, we praise Him and seek His help.
The Shaykh : Praise be to Allah.
The questioner : I praise the Exalted. Do you have the space, if Allah wills, and the energy to answer some of our questions?
The Shaykh : Please, go ahead.
The questioner : In the name of Allah. It is narrated that Allah intended to swallow a village, so He sent the angel in charge of swallowing, Jibril (peace be upon him). He saw a righteous man who fasted during the day and prayed at night. It is said, and they say, so Jibril paused and said, “O Lord, Your servant so-and-so has not disobeyed You for a blink of an eye.” Allah the Mighty and Majestic said, “Begin with him,” until I heard that they say. Then let me hear the sound of his call for help. Is this statement authentic?
The Shaykh : This is a hadith that is called upon for help. Glory be to Allah. Yes. It is a fabricated hadith. Fabricated. Yes.
The questioner : Well, for example, were there not witnesses to the fact that the righteous ones, as came from Ibn Abbas in the exegesis, and Allah knows best, that Allah the Mighty and Majestic, meaning the replacement of the Children of Israel, the famous story of the People of the Sabbath, that in that time, meaning the people were divided in that time into three groups, a group of them who fell into disobedience, meaning those who caught fish on the Sabbath or set their nets,
The Shaykh : Well, what is the point?
The questioner : The point is, he said, a group did not enjoin what is right.
The Shaykh : The story is known, what is the point?
The questioner : The point of mentioning it is that the righteous ones, meaning they were included in the punishment along with the non-righteous ones in this instance, meaning in this story. Does it mean, of course, it is said that the people of sin, our Lord the Exalted swallowed them into pigs, and it is said the righteous ones were swallowed into monkeys. It is said, it is interpreted, it is said that Ibn Abbas, because the reward is of the same kind as the deed, because the nature of the monkey is always to play and joke and laugh and not care about the thoughts of people and their conditions, or about the thought of what happens to him, I mean. First, this story, secondly, is it also authentic?
The Shaykh : First, we do not have this detail. Some of them were transformed, do not say swallowed.
The questioner : Yes, transformed is the most correct.
The Shaykh : Some of them were transformed into pigs, and they were the sinners, and some of them were transformed into monkeys, and they were those who did not enjoin what is right. We do not have this detail in the Sunnah.
The questioner : Meaning, for example, the righteous ones were included in the punishment.
The Shaykh : Included in the transformation. Ah, yes. We have nothing that supports this or denies it. So our Lord knows it best. Yes. But without a doubt, silence regarding enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong is a wrong. So that is the first story, and even if it is, as we said, the first story called upon for help, if the point of it is only to encourage enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong, then the hadiths on that are numerous and good, and likewise in the Qur’an
And let there be [arising] from you a nation inviting to [all that is] good, enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong
وَلْتَكُن مِّنكُمْ أُمَّةٌ يَدْعُونَ إِلَى الْخَيْرِ وَيَأْمُرُونَ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ وَيَنْهَوْنَ عَنِ الْمُنكَرِThe questioner : The scholars of this story that I heard, or some of them say it was mentioned from Ibn al-Qayyim.
The Shaykh : It was mentioned, Ibn al-Qayyim mentions from the Isra’iliyyat whatever comes to mind, he is not narrating from the Messenger of Allah.
The questioner : Well, is there a third witness? It seems I heard, or I just remembered, it is said that an army was attacking the Ka’bah, Aisha was told, perhaps in this hadith, if it was in the wilderness yesterday.
The Shaykh : Yes, this is an authentic hadith.
The questioner : Meaning, they are people even though
Among them are their markets, and they are not from them
فيهم أسواقهم وليس منهمThe Shaykh : But what is the connection between the first question?
The questioner : Righteous, broken, meaning I mean transformed in it, or their punishment was binding.
The Shaykh : They were struck by the punishment, but they will be resurrected according to their intentions. So this is what he said to him, “Begin with him,” he will be resurrected according to his intention.
The questioner : Certainly, and if it is not verified, it is not authentic.
The Shaykh : Mm.
The questioner : Well, have you heard of Wahb ibn Munabbih?
The Shaykh : How could I not hear of him, when he is always before me in the books of the Sunnah?
The questioner : What Allah willed, meaning everything said about him is fine.
The Shaykh : He is a man among the men of the two Sahihs.
The questioner : What Allah willed.
The Shaykh : But perhaps you do not mean him. No.
The questioner : It came to me now.
The Shaykh : You do not mean him specifically.
The questioner : No, by Allah, I do not have detailed information about him as was detailed for me. I used to read him, but glory be to Allah, with time I forgot, meaning. In any case, he means he narrated or mentioned that. A tyrant among the tyrants built a palace and raised it, so an old poor woman came and built a hut next to it to take shelter in it. So the tyrant rode one day and went around the palace and saw the hut and said, “Whose is this?” It was said, “It is for a poor woman who takes shelter in it.” So he ordered it to be demolished. So the old woman came and saw it demolished and said, “Who demolished it?” It was said, “The king saw it and demolished it.” So the old woman raised her head to the sky and said, “O my Lord, if I was not present, where were You?” It is said Allah ordered Jibril to strike the palace with those in it and overturn it. Is it possible this, in its wording as you mentioned.
The Shaykh : A story, a story from the Isra’iliyyat. Do not believe it and do not deny it.
The questioner : Do you believe it?
The Shaykh : And do not deny it.
The questioner : And do not deny it.
The Shaykh : But in some of it there is absurdity, “I was absent, where were You?”
The questioner : Yes, meaning it is not proper etiquette to say it.
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The questioner : If such things, do not believe them and do not deny them.
The Shaykh : Yes, except if they contradict the Shari’ah.
Source
سلسلة الهدى والنور، المجلس 1357 — d3watuna.com (2:06)
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