The operative cause of the cupper breaking his fast

The questioner : Yes,

The Shaykh : The operative cause of the cupper breaking his fast: some scholars said that the cause is that when he sucks the cup, the first thing is that they used to cup using the methods available now; he touches it, and then blood enters him from where he is not satisfied, even if we assume, and they explained that if the cause is based on conjecture, the least cause is sufficient. Some said that for the cupper, it is an act of worship, a devotional act; we do not know, the Messenger of Allah said it, so we say what the Messenger of Allah said and we do not speak [beyond that]. Some said the cupper breaks his fast because he assisted in sin, so he becomes sinful in the position of the one who breaks his fast, but his fast is valid. Yes, that is right, meaning "he broke his fast" implies that he incurred the sin of the one who breaks his fast because he cupped this man while cupping was forbidden for him, and breaking his fast is clear.

The questioner : Now, what was the meaning of the hijab?

The Shaykh : I mean, what was not in the sense of cupping. So, whoever said that the cause is only worship said that if all his blood were drawn from him, he would not break his fast. This is the well-known position of the Hanbalis (may Allah have mercy on them), who say that he does not break his fast by phlebotomy, incision, or the like. And whoever said that the cause is the rational one, which is weakness, said that if blood is drawn from him to the extent that causes weakness, like cupping, he breaks his fast; otherwise, he does not. This is the choice of Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (may Allah have mercy on him), and it is the most correct.

The questioner : My question is about the sorcerer.

The Shaykh : He is the one who draws.

The questioner : From the one who recovers.

The Shaykh : The one who draws, the one who draws: if we say that the cause is that the cupper sucks the cup and it is feared that blood may go into his stomach, then the one who draws with separate instruments is not harmed; it does not harm him at all.

The questioner : It was devotional.

The Shaykh : No, if it is devotional, you know that those who perform the devotional act say that as long as he is a cupper, he breaks his fast in any case, whether he cups with a separate instrument or with a connected instrument. Yes.

The questioner : Shaykh, may Allah reward you.

The Shaykh : Yes.

The questioner : Why does Shaykh al-Islam (may Allah have mercy on him) answer regarding the word "broke his fast" in these two cases when he passed by the cupper and the one cupped?

The Shaykh : It is the same thing; he says this indication is to the meaning, not to the sun. Its interpretation is far-fetched, but the evidence supports it; the strong evidence that there is no breaking of the fast with [the method], yes.

The questioner : Some of our brothers among the people of knowledge choose the cupper and the one cupped, from those who said that the hadith came in the form of a report, and that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) passed by them after the extraction, as...

The Shaykh : This is a mistake. Because if that were the case, and that they broke their fast without cupping, it would not be valid to say "the cupper and the one cupped broke their fast"; he would have said "these two broke their fast" or "so-and-so and so-and-so broke their fast." And the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) speaks words that he knows will be a law for the community until the Day of Resurrection, so linking the ruling to the description, which is cupping, must be followed. Yes.