What is the situation of a teacher who has a jinn present with her during teaching?
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The questioner: Praise be to Allah for the good. Praise be to Allah, that is better. And yesterday, I mean, I felt more at ease because her brother, her full brother from Kuwait, was present. Yes, I congratulate you on your safety. May Allah keep you safe, my teacher. I have now some of our sisters, may Allah reward them with good, who would like to inquire about some matters in their lives. Yes. There is, I mean, a woman close to them who is a teacher, and she tells them some stories that she is always in her school, I mean, she is distracted, or rather, she is in a trance.
The Shaykh : Distracted, she greets me.
The questioner : Yes, she is distracted, meaning she is not with them sometimes.
The Shaykh : From the teacher.
The questioner : Yes, she is with them and not with them; she is with them in body.
The Shaykh: The teacher.
The questioner : Yes, so one of the students or one of the teachers asks her, "What is wrong with you? You are always in this state?" She tells her, of course, she tried and was honest with her that some Muslim jinn come to her. So when she is sitting with you, she is with them, and they and their men sit with her in the same gathering. They say, "We are Muslims and we are righteous," and their women wear, of course, the Shari'ah dress. And if she forgets the prayer, they remind her. And if she sits to read the Qur'an, they sit with her in the gathering. Is there, my teacher, a legal proof for this? Could it be from these things?
The Shaykh : She is a female teacher.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh: And she says that she is teaching them, and these people from the jinn come.
The questioner : Yes, indeed.
The Shaykh: Okay, when she is teaching them, is she assuming these girls are of her kind, meaning humans? Is she veiled as it should be?
The questioner : Regarding the jinn, my teacher, I am veiled.
The Shaykh: I did not tell you the girls are of her kind.
The questioner : Yes, yes, they are veiled, yes.
The Shaykh: When she is teaching the girls in the school, is she veiled? Yes. Why?
The questioner : She is veiled, she wears this dress. Yes, my teacher, I am not veiled, meaning I have something on
The Shaykh : My brother, may Allah guide you. I am asking you when you teach the girls.
The questioner : Yes, yes.
The Shaykh : She is in front of them as if she is walking in the street.
The questioner : Yes, my teacher, one by one.
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner: Yes, just as you say, on the road there is nothing, my teacher, there is no hijab, my teacher, on her face. I made a mistake in my speech with you.
The Shaykh: I meant the face veil.
The questioner : Yes, indeed.
The Shaykh: I mean, when a Muslim woman goes out to the road, how does she go out?
The questioner : In the jilbab and the khimar. Okay. Yes.
The Shaykh : The khimar under the jilbab, like this?
The questioner : Yes, my teacher.
The Shaykh : I think you are rushing, Abu Ahmad.
The questioner : By Allah, my teacher, just as our women wear, or my teacher, let us return and say, excuse me, I have one of the women now, can we ask her?
The Shaykh : You must ask, I was.
The questioner: Okay, the clothing.
The Shaykh: Two questions, pay attention. Yes. Ask her two questions. Yes. First, when she goes out to the street, is she wearing the khimar and over the khimar the jilbab? Yes.
The questioner : Is it like this, or does she wear like you? My teacher, she wears the shayraba with the jilbab, the shayraba with the jilbab.
The Shaykh: May Allah guide you, this pant is what they wear, this is not called a jilbab.
The questioner : Yes, the coat, my teacher.
The Shaykh : You are swept away by the deviant custom, so you mean by jilbab now the pant.
The questioner : Yes, my teacher, the coat, yes.
The Shaykh: This is not a jilbab. So if she wears the pant and the what? A scarf.
The questioner : And the shayraba, yes.
The Shaykh: Okay, and when she is teaching the girls, this is the second question. Yes. When she is teaching the girls, does she not take anything from her freedom? I mean, does she not raise the scarf with this hand?
The questioner: She raises it. My teacher, she does not raise it. She does not raise anything from it, just as she is in the street.
The Shaykh : Why?
The questioner : The setting, my teacher, is like this.
The Shaykh : We know that the teachers who teach girls go easy on themselves by taking their freedom, at least raising the khimar.
The questioner : My teacher, she does not raise it.
The Shaykh: She does not raise it. Okay, these jinn who come to her, she says these are a group of righteous ones, how do I know that?
The questioner : From their speech, my teacher.
The Shaykh: I say that if they were righteous, they would not come to her during the lesson to distract her from her girls. Yes. So it appears, and Allah knows best, that this is one of the delusions of the common people in the present age.
The questioner : Yes, my teacher. Okay, our teacher, if for example these people, for example, come to you also in the house.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : Yes, it would be the same thing, my teacher?
The Shaykh: It is the same thing.
The questioner : Meaning, if they were righteous, our teacher, they would not come out to the humans. How? If these were from the righteous of the jinn, they would not come out to the humans, our teacher.
The Shaykh: No, they may come out, this cannot be denied, but it does not prevent a Muslim from performing his duty.
The questioner : Yes, indeed.
The Shaykh: They do not occupy his mind, leaving him like this, grazing and lost in life. He has obligations and he has the duties of a human being.
The questioner : My teacher, she says that they come to her daily for about five minutes.
The Shaykh: In any case, this is just a claim. Do not listen. I told you once the story of that man who used to say that it is not possible for a human to connect with a jinn. Then he married a jinn woman, he claimed. One day he was found with his forehead bandaged. He was asked, what is wrong with you? He said, I married a jinn woman and she threw a pot at me and gashed me. Did I mention the story?
The questioner : Yes, yes, my teacher.
The Shaykh : Meaning, the connection between the two kinds, between humans and jinn, is not equivalent, because the jinn were created from fire and humans were created from clay. But it is possible for them to appear. As for it becoming a matter of pleasant conversation and advice, as this teacher claims, I do not think this is anything but from the realm of illusions.
The questioner: May Allah reward you with all good, my teacher.
The Shaykh : May Allah keep you safe.
The questioner : Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.
The Shaykh : Distracted, she greets me.
The questioner : Yes, she is distracted, meaning she is not with them sometimes.
The Shaykh : From the teacher.
The questioner : Yes, she is with them and not with them; she is with them in body.
The Shaykh: The teacher.
The questioner : Yes, so one of the students or one of the teachers asks her, "What is wrong with you? You are always in this state?" She tells her, of course, she tried and was honest with her that some Muslim jinn come to her. So when she is sitting with you, she is with them, and they and their men sit with her in the same gathering. They say, "We are Muslims and we are righteous," and their women wear, of course, the Shari'ah dress. And if she forgets the prayer, they remind her. And if she sits to read the Qur'an, they sit with her in the gathering. Is there, my teacher, a legal proof for this? Could it be from these things?
The Shaykh : She is a female teacher.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh: And she says that she is teaching them, and these people from the jinn come.
The questioner : Yes, indeed.
The Shaykh: Okay, when she is teaching them, is she assuming these girls are of her kind, meaning humans? Is she veiled as it should be?
The questioner : Regarding the jinn, my teacher, I am veiled.
The Shaykh: I did not tell you the girls are of her kind.
The questioner : Yes, yes, they are veiled, yes.
The Shaykh: When she is teaching the girls in the school, is she veiled? Yes. Why?
The questioner : She is veiled, she wears this dress. Yes, my teacher, I am not veiled, meaning I have something on
The Shaykh : My brother, may Allah guide you. I am asking you when you teach the girls.
The questioner : Yes, yes.
The Shaykh : She is in front of them as if she is walking in the street.
The questioner : Yes, my teacher, one by one.
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner: Yes, just as you say, on the road there is nothing, my teacher, there is no hijab, my teacher, on her face. I made a mistake in my speech with you.
The Shaykh: I meant the face veil.
The questioner : Yes, indeed.
The Shaykh: I mean, when a Muslim woman goes out to the road, how does she go out?
The questioner : In the jilbab and the khimar. Okay. Yes.
The Shaykh : The khimar under the jilbab, like this?
The questioner : Yes, my teacher.
The Shaykh : I think you are rushing, Abu Ahmad.
The questioner : By Allah, my teacher, just as our women wear, or my teacher, let us return and say, excuse me, I have one of the women now, can we ask her?
The Shaykh : You must ask, I was.
The questioner: Okay, the clothing.
The Shaykh: Two questions, pay attention. Yes. Ask her two questions. Yes. First, when she goes out to the street, is she wearing the khimar and over the khimar the jilbab? Yes.
The questioner : Is it like this, or does she wear like you? My teacher, she wears the shayraba with the jilbab, the shayraba with the jilbab.
The Shaykh: May Allah guide you, this pant is what they wear, this is not called a jilbab.
The questioner : Yes, the coat, my teacher.
The Shaykh : You are swept away by the deviant custom, so you mean by jilbab now the pant.
The questioner : Yes, my teacher, the coat, yes.
The Shaykh: This is not a jilbab. So if she wears the pant and the what? A scarf.
The questioner : And the shayraba, yes.
The Shaykh: Okay, and when she is teaching the girls, this is the second question. Yes. When she is teaching the girls, does she not take anything from her freedom? I mean, does she not raise the scarf with this hand?
The questioner: She raises it. My teacher, she does not raise it. She does not raise anything from it, just as she is in the street.
The Shaykh : Why?
The questioner : The setting, my teacher, is like this.
The Shaykh : We know that the teachers who teach girls go easy on themselves by taking their freedom, at least raising the khimar.
The questioner : My teacher, she does not raise it.
The Shaykh: She does not raise it. Okay, these jinn who come to her, she says these are a group of righteous ones, how do I know that?
The questioner : From their speech, my teacher.
The Shaykh: I say that if they were righteous, they would not come to her during the lesson to distract her from her girls. Yes. So it appears, and Allah knows best, that this is one of the delusions of the common people in the present age.
The questioner : Yes, my teacher. Okay, our teacher, if for example these people, for example, come to you also in the house.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : Yes, it would be the same thing, my teacher?
The Shaykh: It is the same thing.
The questioner : Meaning, if they were righteous, our teacher, they would not come out to the humans. How? If these were from the righteous of the jinn, they would not come out to the humans, our teacher.
The Shaykh: No, they may come out, this cannot be denied, but it does not prevent a Muslim from performing his duty.
The questioner : Yes, indeed.
The Shaykh: They do not occupy his mind, leaving him like this, grazing and lost in life. He has obligations and he has the duties of a human being.
The questioner : My teacher, she says that they come to her daily for about five minutes.
The Shaykh: In any case, this is just a claim. Do not listen. I told you once the story of that man who used to say that it is not possible for a human to connect with a jinn. Then he married a jinn woman, he claimed. One day he was found with his forehead bandaged. He was asked, what is wrong with you? He said, I married a jinn woman and she threw a pot at me and gashed me. Did I mention the story?
The questioner : Yes, yes, my teacher.
The Shaykh : Meaning, the connection between the two kinds, between humans and jinn, is not equivalent, because the jinn were created from fire and humans were created from clay. But it is possible for them to appear. As for it becoming a matter of pleasant conversation and advice, as this teacher claims, I do not think this is anything but from the realm of illusions.
The questioner: May Allah reward you with all good, my teacher.
The Shaykh : May Allah keep you safe.
The questioner : Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.
Source
سلسلة الهدى والنور، رقم 1363 في قناة «تسجيلات الإمام الألباني - محمد أبو ليلى الأثري» — youtube.com (2:24)
The Arabic text is a machine transcription of the audio recording.
