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﴿ فَاسْأَلُوا أَهْلَ الذِّكْرِ إِن كُنتُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَ ﴾

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The Ruling on the Takbir of the Ma'mum, Doubt in Sa'y, and the Hour of Jumu'ah

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The questioner:
We move on to a message received by the program from one of our brother listeners. He says: "I am 'Ayn Zayn, my brother has a question. He says: I entered the prayer while the imam was returning [from bowing], so I said the takbir of ihram, then the takbir of ruku' without reciting the opening supplication, fearing that he would rise from ruku' and that I would miss the rak'ah. Does one takbir suffice in this situation, or is it necessary to say two takbirs? May Allah reward you with good."

The Shaykh:
If one comes while the imam is in ruku', he says the takbir of ihram before he bends, because the takbir of ihram must be said while standing. Then he bends for ruku'. If he wishes, he says another takbir, which is a recommended practice (sunnah); if he wishes to suffice with the takbir of ihram, there is no harm. The takbir of ruku' in this situation is not obligatory. As for the takbir of ruku' in other situations, it is among the obligations of the prayer. As for the opening supplication, it has no place there, nor does it have a place here, because he cannot perform the ruku'. In fact, the recitation of al-Fatihah is dropped from him in this situation, even though it is a pillar of the prayer, even according to those who say it is obligatory for the ma'mum. Most of them hold that in this situation, the recitation of al-Fatihah is dropped from him.

The questioner:
The second rak'ah in the Zuhr prayer, or if I caught the last rak'ah, what will be the case regarding the three tashahhuds? What do I recite in the tashahhud regarding the first, second, and third? And in which tashahhud do I restrict myself to the tahiyyat only, without the Ibrahimiyyah prayer? May Allah reward you with good.

The Shaykh:
As for the tashahhud that you join with the imam, this is for the sake of following only. It is not for the sake of following unless you caught two rak'ahs with the imam and he sat for the final tashahhud. In that case, you consider this to be the first tashahhud for you. You repeat the recitation of the tahiyyat in it. When the imam says the salam, you stand and make up what you missed, then you sit for the final tashahhud. What you performed with the imam in this situation is the first tashahhud for you, because you caught two rak'ahs with him. However, if you did not catch with him except one rak'ah, you sit with him after it for the sake of following, and you do not consider this sitting to be anything. When you come to the second rak'ah after the imam's salam, you sit for the first tashahhud, then you stand and complete the rest of the prayer, then you sit for the final tashahhud, after which you say the salam. May Allah reward you with good. That first tashahhud in which you sat with the imam for the sake of following, you do not recite the tahiyyat and repeat them until the imam says the salam.
In the first tashahhud, in the first sitting and the second sitting, you recite in the tashahhud that is for the sake of following, you recite the first tashahhud and repeat it. Likewise, the first tashahhud that is considered for you if you caught two rak'ahs with the imam, you recite in the first tashahhud as well. As for the third, it is as usual.

The questioner:
Is supplication on Friday during the sought hour of response made through prayer, or through supplication alone?

The Shaykh:
If it is after the 'Asr prayer, it is not by prayer, because it may suffice for the prayer after the 'Asr prayer until the sun sets, but he supplicates. And the most probable opinion, as held by Imam Ahmad, is that this hour is the last hour of Friday. And the meaning of his saying (peace and blessings be upon him), "while he is standing praying," is that the intended prayer here is supplication, because supplication is called prayer. Allah the Exalted said:
Take, [O, Muhammad], from their wealth a charity by which you purify them and cause them increase, and invoke [Allah 's blessings] upon themخُذْ مِنْ أَمْوَالِهِمْ صَدَقَةً تُطَهِّرُهُمْ وَتُزَكِّيهِم بِهَا وَصَلِّ عَلَيْهِمْ
[At-Tawbah 9:103]
meaning, supplicate for them. The intended prayer here is supplication.

The questioner:
May Allah reward you with good. "While he is standing praying," is the intended meaning the standing itself, or even if he is sitting? And some scholars hold that he sits on the pulpit until it ends.

The Shaykh:
Prayer, a need for the hour of response, it is a recommended practice (sunnah) for the whole day. Some scholars hold that it is from something where the imam sits on the pulpit until the prayer after the permissibility ends, but the whole thing is after 'Asr, twelve [hours] at the end of the day. No, and Allah knows best, it may be that each of the two times is an hour. May Allah reward you with good.
Source نور على الدرب - الفوزان - 01/099 — archive.org (7:23)

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