Explanation of Ibn Taymiyyah's statement on the annihilation of the Fire and the permanence of its inhabitants
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The questioner:
O Shaykh, may Allah reward you. You mentioned today in the Friday lesson after the prayer
The Shaykh:
No, no.
The questioner:
that Ibn Taymiyyah holds the view of the annihilation of the Fire.
The Shaykh:
Yes, that is not correct. What is known about him is that he mentioned two views; what is known about him is that he mentioned two views. If he said it, it is an error. If it was reported from him, it is an error. The correct view according to the people of the Sunnah is that it is eternal and permanent, and its inhabitants are permanent in it. We ask Allah for safety. The punishment of the disbelievers is eternal, and it remains forever. Whenever a soul perishes, it is replaced. We ask Allah for safety.
The presenter:
Yes, that is the word.
The Shaykh:
And we will not add to you anything other than what we ask Allah for safety.
The questioner:
O Shaykh, in a statement by Ibn Taymiyyah, he speaks of the permanence of the Fire.
The Shaykh:
Abu, if he said it, it is a mistake. Abu, if he said it, it is a mistake. Abu, if he said it, it is a mistake. So if a tasbih came.
The questioner:
The permanence of the Fire, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh:
If you find its permanence, that is good.
The presenter:
Yes, in the Fatwas, volume eighteen.
The Shaykh:
Yes, that is it.
The presenter:
He says. Page, and also in *Al-Tamathul al-'Aql wa al-Naql* by Ibn Taymiyyah, volume two.
The Shaykh:
This is the presumption about him.
The presenter:
Brother, what is the Shaykh's opinion? The Shaykh of Islam was asked about the hadith of Anas, traced to the Prophet, that seven things do not die and do not perish: the Fire and its inhabitants, the Tablet and the Pen, the Footstool and the Throne. Is this hadith authentic? He answered with the following text: This report in this wording is not from the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him). Rather, it is from the words of some of the scholars. And the Salaf of the Ummah, its imams, and the rest of the people of the Sunnah and the community agreed that among the created things are some that are not destroyed and do not perish completely, such as Paradise, the Fire, the Throne, and others. No one said that all created things perish except a group of the innovating people of theology, like Jahm ibn Safwan, and those who agreed with him from the Mu'tazilah and their like. This is a false view that contradicts the Book of Allah, the Sunnah of His Messenger, and the consensus of the Salaf of the Ummah and its imams.
The Shaykh:
What page?
The presenter:
These Fatwas, volume eighteen, page three hundred and seven.
The Shaykh:
Yes, volume eighteen. Good. This is the presumption about him. This is what is fitting.
The presenter:
Yes, another topic.
The Shaykh:
And it does not stand, yes.
The presenter:
He says, and the people of Islam all said.
The Shaykh:
No, even in other than prayer, you find the table ten, seven, you find the table ten, seven,
The presenter:
O Shaykh.
The Shaykh:
Yes, virtues. Yes.
The presenter:
Yes, O Shaykh, another topic, the level of *Al-Tamathul al-'Aql wa al-Naql*. Let me read, O Shaykh. And the people of Islam all said that there is no end to Paradise and the Fire, and that they will continue to remain, and likewise the people of Paradise will continue in Paradise enjoying, and the people of the Fire in the Fire being punished, there is no end to that.
The Shaykh:
This is the truth, this is the truth.
The presenter:
This is the lesson of *Al-Tamathul*, volume two, page three hundred and fifty-eight.
The Shaykh:
Put it down as one of the obligations.
The presenter:
Also, O Shaykh, I have with me a treatise titled *Kashf al-Astar li-Ibtal Da'wa Fann al-Nar al-Mansub li-Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah wa-Talamidhihi Ibn al-Qayyim* (Unveiling the Veils to Refute the Claim of the Annihilation of the Fire Attributed to the Shaykh of Islam Ibn Taymiyyah and His Student Ibn al-Qayyim) by Dr. Ali ibn Ali Jabir al-Harbi.
The Shaykh:
Or may Allah purify him with what pleased Him.
The presenter:
A teacher at the University of Umm al-Qura, yes, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh:
In a copy, they have the copies.
The presenter:
This is its face, please.
The Shaykh:
You have it without anything.
The presenter:
Yes, O Shaykh, yes.
The Shaykh:
From the side of Allah.
O Shaykh, may Allah reward you. You mentioned today in the Friday lesson after the prayer
The Shaykh:
No, no.
The questioner:
that Ibn Taymiyyah holds the view of the annihilation of the Fire.
The Shaykh:
Yes, that is not correct. What is known about him is that he mentioned two views; what is known about him is that he mentioned two views. If he said it, it is an error. If it was reported from him, it is an error. The correct view according to the people of the Sunnah is that it is eternal and permanent, and its inhabitants are permanent in it. We ask Allah for safety. The punishment of the disbelievers is eternal, and it remains forever. Whenever a soul perishes, it is replaced. We ask Allah for safety.
The presenter:
Yes, that is the word.
The Shaykh:
And we will not add to you anything other than what we ask Allah for safety.
The questioner:
O Shaykh, in a statement by Ibn Taymiyyah, he speaks of the permanence of the Fire.
The Shaykh:
Abu, if he said it, it is a mistake. Abu, if he said it, it is a mistake. Abu, if he said it, it is a mistake. So if a tasbih came.
The questioner:
The permanence of the Fire, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh:
If you find its permanence, that is good.
The presenter:
Yes, in the Fatwas, volume eighteen.
The Shaykh:
Yes, that is it.
The presenter:
He says. Page, and also in *Al-Tamathul al-'Aql wa al-Naql* by Ibn Taymiyyah, volume two.
The Shaykh:
This is the presumption about him.
The presenter:
Brother, what is the Shaykh's opinion? The Shaykh of Islam was asked about the hadith of Anas, traced to the Prophet, that seven things do not die and do not perish: the Fire and its inhabitants, the Tablet and the Pen, the Footstool and the Throne. Is this hadith authentic? He answered with the following text: This report in this wording is not from the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him). Rather, it is from the words of some of the scholars. And the Salaf of the Ummah, its imams, and the rest of the people of the Sunnah and the community agreed that among the created things are some that are not destroyed and do not perish completely, such as Paradise, the Fire, the Throne, and others. No one said that all created things perish except a group of the innovating people of theology, like Jahm ibn Safwan, and those who agreed with him from the Mu'tazilah and their like. This is a false view that contradicts the Book of Allah, the Sunnah of His Messenger, and the consensus of the Salaf of the Ummah and its imams.
The Shaykh:
What page?
The presenter:
These Fatwas, volume eighteen, page three hundred and seven.
The Shaykh:
Yes, volume eighteen. Good. This is the presumption about him. This is what is fitting.
The presenter:
Yes, another topic.
The Shaykh:
And it does not stand, yes.
The presenter:
He says, and the people of Islam all said.
The Shaykh:
No, even in other than prayer, you find the table ten, seven, you find the table ten, seven,
The presenter:
O Shaykh.
The Shaykh:
Yes, virtues. Yes.
The presenter:
Yes, O Shaykh, another topic, the level of *Al-Tamathul al-'Aql wa al-Naql*. Let me read, O Shaykh. And the people of Islam all said that there is no end to Paradise and the Fire, and that they will continue to remain, and likewise the people of Paradise will continue in Paradise enjoying, and the people of the Fire in the Fire being punished, there is no end to that.
The Shaykh:
This is the truth, this is the truth.
The presenter:
This is the lesson of *Al-Tamathul*, volume two, page three hundred and fifty-eight.
The Shaykh:
Put it down as one of the obligations.
The presenter:
Also, O Shaykh, I have with me a treatise titled *Kashf al-Astar li-Ibtal Da'wa Fann al-Nar al-Mansub li-Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah wa-Talamidhihi Ibn al-Qayyim* (Unveiling the Veils to Refute the Claim of the Annihilation of the Fire Attributed to the Shaykh of Islam Ibn Taymiyyah and His Student Ibn al-Qayyim) by Dr. Ali ibn Ali Jabir al-Harbi.
The Shaykh:
Or may Allah purify him with what pleased Him.
The presenter:
A teacher at the University of Umm al-Qura, yes, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh:
In a copy, they have the copies.
The presenter:
This is its face, please.
The Shaykh:
You have it without anything.
The presenter:
Yes, O Shaykh, yes.
The Shaykh:
From the side of Allah.
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