Discipline and the prohibition of those who deny it
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The questioner:
He says: Honorable Shaykh, may Allah reward you. Recently, there has been a lot of talk about striking for education, claiming that it is contrary to modern upbringing. Does the one who says this have any issue with his faith, especially since it contradicts the texts?
The Shaykh:
Allahu Akbar. It is not absolutely permissible, nor is it absolutely prohibited. It depends on the need. It depends on the need. Before discipline. And in truth. Before discipline. The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said: He calls. It does not please.
And Allah (Exalted and Majestic is He) says: If[Al-Ma'idah 5:37] the wives whose defiance you fear, then admonish them, and leave them alone in their beds, and strike them. If the need arises for striking, it is a good means, a means of light, and it is not to be spread to the side; it is permissible in the Sunnah.
And if he knows the Sunnah and denies it, even if the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said it, he is to be feared for, because he has rejected the saying of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him).
But most of them take from the West; they take their studies from the West and do not study the Shari'ah, nor do they study the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him). I say that they said this out of ignorance. But if they intentionally did this thing while knowing that the Shari'ah brought it, he is to be feared for. And likewise, Allah obligated striking. He obligated striking with the jilb. The jilb is the jilb. Each one writes and is brought. The jilb is the striking. Glorified and angry. With His pleasure, it is prescribed in Islam. Sometimes it is obligatory, sometimes it is a fixed obligatory limit, and sometimes it is a discretionary punishment out of fear when there is a need.
The questioner:
And does the one who says that have any issue with his faith?
The Shaykh:
To the extent of disbelief, if he knows that the Messenger said it and he rejects it, even if the Messenger said it, he is to be declared a disbeliever, yes. And likewise, Allah (Exalted and Majestic is He) mentioned the right of sitting, He said:[An-Nur 24:4]. As if. Yes.
He says: Honorable Shaykh, may Allah reward you. Recently, there has been a lot of talk about striking for education, claiming that it is contrary to modern upbringing. Does the one who says this have any issue with his faith, especially since it contradicts the texts?
The Shaykh:
Allahu Akbar. It is not absolutely permissible, nor is it absolutely prohibited. It depends on the need. It depends on the need. Before discipline. And in truth. Before discipline. The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said:
Command your children to pray when they are seven years old, and what
مروا أولادكم في الصلاة لسجن وماAnd Allah (Exalted and Majestic is He) says: If
to get out of
أَن يَخْرُجُوا مِنَAnd if he knows the Sunnah and denies it, even if the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said it, he is to be feared for, because he has rejected the saying of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him).
But most of them take from the West; they take their studies from the West and do not study the Shari'ah, nor do they study the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him). I say that they said this out of ignorance. But if they intentionally did this thing while knowing that the Shari'ah brought it, he is to be feared for. And likewise, Allah obligated striking. He obligated striking with the jilb. The jilb is the jilb. Each one writes and is brought. The jilb is the striking. Glorified and angry. With His pleasure, it is prescribed in Islam. Sometimes it is obligatory, sometimes it is a fixed obligatory limit, and sometimes it is a discretionary punishment out of fear when there is a need.
The questioner:
And does the one who says that have any issue with his faith?
The Shaykh:
To the extent of disbelief, if he knows that the Messenger said it and he rejects it, even if the Messenger said it, he is to be declared a disbeliever, yes. And likewise, Allah (Exalted and Majestic is He) mentioned the right of sitting, He said:
And those who accuse chaste women and then do not produce four witnesses - lash them with eighty lashes
وَالَّذِينَ يَرْمُونَ الْمُحْصَنَاتِ ثُمَّ لَمْ يَأْتُوا بِأَرْبَعَةِ شُهَدَاءَ فَاجْلِدُوهُمْ ثَمَانِينَ جَلْدَةً
Source
شرح الكافية الشافية في الانتصار للفرقة الناجية [ القصيدة النونية ] [ صالح الفوزان ]، فصل : في تعين الهجرة من الآراء والبدع إلى سنته كما كانت فرضا من الأمصار إلى بلدته - عليه الصلاة والسلام - — islamhouse.com (58:55)
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