The Prayer of the Traveler Behind the Resident Imam
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The questioner:
Honorable Shaykh, he is with a traveler, and his group is moving with him in matters. He said it is a quarter past the hour. Does he complete the prayer, or does he conclude it by saying he is a traveler?
The Shaykh:
No, if he enters the prayer with the imam, he must complete it, even if he enters during the final tashahhud. If he enters with the imam, he is required to complete the prayer because his ruling in that case becomes the ruling of the imam, so he is required to complete it because he is following the imam. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said:Sahih al-Bukhari 1236 And the implication of completing the prayer is that he completes the prayer, even if he enters at the very end. Yes, and this is something many people overlook. Yes. Yes, yes.
Another questioner:
Until we meet again.
The Shaykh:
Okay.
Another questioner:
If it was a quarter, he concludes.
The Shaykh:
He follows the imam because he is a ma'mum; he remains a ma'mum. Yes.
Another questioner:
We find it to be smaller. Also, we will say that it is.
The Shaykh:
Yes.
Another questioner:
First of all.
The Shaykh:
He is required to repeat the prayer. If he entered with the imam and the imam shortened the prayer, then if he remembered shortly after, he must complete the prayer and perform sujud al-sahw. But if a long time has passed, he must repeat the prayer from the beginning, completing it.
The questioner:
And did anyone say that a person does not benefit from what he shortens after the one who writes?
The Shaykh:
I do not know of anyone who said this. I do not know, but the implication of the text is that he completes it, because he is required to follow the imam and emulate the imam, and the imam completes the prayer, so he is required to complete it.
I do not know, but this is questionable, even if the Shaykh al-Islam mentioned it, it is questionable, due to the saying of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him):Sahih al-Bukhari 1236 In fact, the opposite is the correct view: if the imam who shortens the prayer prays and there are people behind him who complete the prayer, then when he concludes the prayer, they stand up and complete it. First, it is permissible for the one who completes the prayer to follow the one who shortens the prayer, and he completes it for himself. As for the opposite, the ruling of the ma'mum is the ruling of the imam. Yes. Yes.
No, it is not sound. It is not sound. I say it is not sound because it contradicts the imam. It contradicts the imam. By the implication of the hadith, in any case, one accepts what is in accordance with the evidence and leaves what contradicts the evidence, even if it is from the most distinguished of the imams. The look is to the evidence in this matter. Yes. Yes, but he caught up with the following, he caught up with following the imam, so his ruling is the ruling of the imam. He is not independent. Yes.
Honorable Shaykh, he is with a traveler, and his group is moving with him in matters. He said it is a quarter past the hour. Does he complete the prayer, or does he conclude it by saying he is a traveler?
The Shaykh:
No, if he enters the prayer with the imam, he must complete it, even if he enters during the final tashahhud. If he enters with the imam, he is required to complete the prayer because his ruling in that case becomes the ruling of the imam, so he is required to complete it because he is following the imam. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said:
The Imam is to be followed
إنما جعل الإمام ليؤتم بهAnother questioner:
Until we meet again.
The Shaykh:
Okay.
Another questioner:
If it was a quarter, he concludes.
The Shaykh:
He follows the imam because he is a ma'mum; he remains a ma'mum. Yes.
Another questioner:
We find it to be smaller. Also, we will say that it is.
The Shaykh:
Yes.
Another questioner:
First of all.
The Shaykh:
He is required to repeat the prayer. If he entered with the imam and the imam shortened the prayer, then if he remembered shortly after, he must complete the prayer and perform sujud al-sahw. But if a long time has passed, he must repeat the prayer from the beginning, completing it.
The questioner:
And did anyone say that a person does not benefit from what he shortens after the one who writes?
The Shaykh:
I do not know of anyone who said this. I do not know, but the implication of the text is that he completes it, because he is required to follow the imam and emulate the imam, and the imam completes the prayer, so he is required to complete it.
I do not know, but this is questionable, even if the Shaykh al-Islam mentioned it, it is questionable, due to the saying of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him):
The Imam is to be followed
إنما جعل الإمام ليؤتم بهNo, it is not sound. It is not sound. I say it is not sound because it contradicts the imam. It contradicts the imam. By the implication of the hadith, in any case, one accepts what is in accordance with the evidence and leaves what contradicts the evidence, even if it is from the most distinguished of the imams. The look is to the evidence in this matter. Yes. Yes, but he caught up with the following, he caught up with following the imam, so his ruling is the ruling of the imam. He is not independent. Yes.
Source
شرح بلوغ المرام من أدلة الأحكام [ صالح الفوزان ]، باب الغسل وحكم الجنب — islamhouse.com (1:03:09)
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