What is the ruling on going to people who seek the help of jinn in treatment?
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The questioner : Honorable Shaykh, a question, Shaykh. May peace, mercy, and blessings of Allah be upon you. We ask Allah the Exalted to raise your rank in Paradise and in this world, and that of the listeners and all Muslims. The question is: What is the ruling on going to people who seek the help of jinn in treatment, especially since I have a relative who wants to…? Especially since I have a relative who wants to…
The Shaykh : All right.
The questioner : Yes, she wants to go to them in order to have children; because she heard about a woman who went and the man treated her by seeking the help of the jinn, so she became pregnant. Give us a ruling. What does she want?
The Shaykh : First, we ask: Are the jinn Muslims? Among them are Muslims and among them are disbelievers[Al-Jinn 72:14]. This is one point. Are there righteous people among the Muslims? Among them are righteous people and among them are sinners [Al-Jinn 72:11]. If a righteous jinn helps a righteous human being, without shirk (associating partners with Allah) and without oppression, what is the problem? What prevents it? Yes, a righteous man helps a righteous man. Are they not men? Hmm? [Al-Jinn 72:6] Well, if a righteous human being seeks the help of a righteous jinn, what prevents it? We seek help from Allah, and we even seek help from human beings; is it not the case that some of us help others? Yes. What? Does he not have the ability? No, he does not have the ability. Sulayman sought the help of the jinn [Sad 38:37-38], and this ifrit whose story we mentioned a moment ago said, "I will bring it to you before you turn back to your place, before you rise from your position, and I am strong over it." Look at how strong the description is. I have no weakness, I am trustworthy, I have no treachery. Amazing, people, what prevents it? Hmm? Yes?
Yes, what? Well done. We say: When is it established that he is a Muslim who is righteous? This is what needs clarification. But if we know that he is a believer who is righteous, there is no obstacle. If someone asks, "How do you say there is no obstacle when the Shaytan who escaped from the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) even confused him in his prayer?" He said, "If I had not mentioned the supplication of my brother Sulayman, I would have tied him to the pillar of the mosque so that the boys of the people of Madinah would play with him." But he mentioned the saying of Sulayman:[Sad 38:35]. It is said that the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) said that in the context of punishment, in the context of punishment, and did not mention the issue of seeking help. That is, he did not wish to punish the jinn as Sulayman used to punish them. [Sad 38:37-38] And the fourth category, the fourth section, is not mentioned, or is this sufficient? Among them are those who build magnificent palaces, bringing him large stones that humans cannot move for this construction. Divers who dive into the deep seas that humans cannot reach, extracting jewelry and other things from them. And others who disobeyed; what did he do to them? He shackled them, chaining them in the fetters. Allah the Exalted said: [Sad 38:39] But the issue of righteousness is the problem. The issue of righteousness is the problem that a person cannot be certain of. Therefore, one holds back. And the Shaykh al-Islam (may Allah have mercy on him) mentioned in his books, in the *Fatawa*, and in *Iydhah al-Dalalah 'ala 'Umm al-Risalah*, and in the book *Al-Nubuwwat*, that it is permissible to seek the help of righteous jinn, on the condition that one does not seek their help in a forbidden matter or by a forbidden means. Not seeking their help in a forbidden matter means not seeking their help to corrupt people's wealth. Because the jinn may tyrannize and corrupt people's wealth. They may tyrannize over their camels and make them scream until they scatter. Or by a forbidden means, meaning that they do not obey him unless he does something forbidden, such as shirk (associating partners with Allah) or the like.
Yes, and there are incidents mentioned to us, but they are from the stories of people, from the stories of gatherings, indicating that the jinn are beneficial in some cases. And among those who mentioned this is the Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah in his books. He mentioned that the Commander of the Faithful, 'Umar ibn al-Khattab (may Allah be pleased with him), was delayed from the people one day, so the people's hearts were distressed. So they went to a woman in Madinah who had a vision from the jinn. They asked her, and she sent her companion, and he came with the news and said, "The Commander of the Faithful is fine, and he was just now applying oil to the camels of charity." What does applying oil to them mean? It means the camels had scab, and scab is a skin disease, and they are applied with oil and what is mixed with it. And the Commander of the Faithful, the Commander of the Faithful, the greatest state, he is the one who takes charge of… Allah is the Greatest, he takes charge of what? Applying oil to the camels of charity. He is the one who would now go out. If one of us said, "I want to go out to cure the camel of scab," what would he say? He would say, "May Allah forgive you, we seek help from Allah." Yes.
The presenter : Well, the answer to the question: Is it permissible for a woman to go to…
The Shaykh : In any case, the answer is understood from his words. If we know that this man whom humans seek help from is righteous, and they seek his help for something permissible and by a permissible means, then according to what the Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (may Allah have mercy on him) said, it is permissible. It is not apparent. If a corrupt human is found, I do not think a righteous jinni would help him. Be patient, I do not think he would help him, because if he were a righteous jinni, he would not help an open sinner. But there are righteous people who seek the help of righteous jinn.
The Shaykh : All right.
The questioner : Yes, she wants to go to them in order to have children; because she heard about a woman who went and the man treated her by seeking the help of the jinn, so she became pregnant. Give us a ruling. What does she want?
The Shaykh : First, we ask: Are the jinn Muslims? Among them are Muslims and among them are disbelievers
And among us are Muslims [in submission to Allah], and among us are the unjust
وَأَنَّا مِنَّا الْمُسْلِمُونَ وَمِنَّا الْقَاسِطُونَAnd among us are the righteous, and among us are [others] not so
وَأَنَّا مِنَّا الصَّالِحُونَ وَمِنَّا دُونَ ذَٰلِكَAnd there were men from mankind who sought refuge in men from the jinn, so they [only] increased them in burden.
وَأَنَّهُ كَانَ رِجَالٌ مِّنَ الْإِنسِ يَعُوذُونَ بِرِجَالٍ مِّنَ الْجِنِّ فَزَادُوهُمْ رَهَقًا(37) And [also] the devils [of jinn] - every builder and diver (38) And others bound together in shackles.
وَالشَّيَاطِينَ كُلَّ بَنَّاءٍ وَغَوَّاصٍ وَآخَرِينَ مُقَرَّنِينَ فِي الْأَصْفَادِYes, what? Well done. We say: When is it established that he is a Muslim who is righteous? This is what needs clarification. But if we know that he is a believer who is righteous, there is no obstacle. If someone asks, "How do you say there is no obstacle when the Shaytan who escaped from the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) even confused him in his prayer?" He said, "If I had not mentioned the supplication of my brother Sulayman, I would have tied him to the pillar of the mosque so that the boys of the people of Madinah would play with him." But he mentioned the saying of Sulayman:
My Lord, forgive me and grant me a kingdom such as will not belong to anyone after me
رَبِّ اغْفِرْ لِي وَهَبْ لِي مُلْكًا لَّا يَنبَغِي لِأَحَدٍ مِّن بَعْدِي(37) And [also] the devils [of jinn] - every builder and diver (38) And others bound together in shackles.
وَالشَّيَاطِينَ كُلَّ بَنَّاءٍ وَغَوَّاصٍ وَآخَرِينَ مُقَرَّنِينَ فِي الْأَصْفَادِ[We said], "This is Our gift, so grant or withhold without account."
هَٰذَا عَطَاؤُنَا فَامْنُنْ أَوْ أَمْسِكْ بِغَيْرِ حِسَابٍYes, and there are incidents mentioned to us, but they are from the stories of people, from the stories of gatherings, indicating that the jinn are beneficial in some cases. And among those who mentioned this is the Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah in his books. He mentioned that the Commander of the Faithful, 'Umar ibn al-Khattab (may Allah be pleased with him), was delayed from the people one day, so the people's hearts were distressed. So they went to a woman in Madinah who had a vision from the jinn. They asked her, and she sent her companion, and he came with the news and said, "The Commander of the Faithful is fine, and he was just now applying oil to the camels of charity." What does applying oil to them mean? It means the camels had scab, and scab is a skin disease, and they are applied with oil and what is mixed with it. And the Commander of the Faithful, the Commander of the Faithful, the greatest state, he is the one who takes charge of… Allah is the Greatest, he takes charge of what? Applying oil to the camels of charity. He is the one who would now go out. If one of us said, "I want to go out to cure the camel of scab," what would he say? He would say, "May Allah forgive you, we seek help from Allah." Yes.
The presenter : Well, the answer to the question: Is it permissible for a woman to go to…
The Shaykh : In any case, the answer is understood from his words. If we know that this man whom humans seek help from is righteous, and they seek his help for something permissible and by a permissible means, then according to what the Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (may Allah have mercy on him) said, it is permissible. It is not apparent. If a corrupt human is found, I do not think a righteous jinni would help him. Be patient, I do not think he would help him, because if he were a righteous jinni, he would not help an open sinner. But there are righteous people who seek the help of righteous jinn.
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اللقاءات الرمضانية لعام 1413هـ - 3 — binothaimeen.net (1:07:07)
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