What is the ruling on one who denies the punishment of the grave?
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The questioner : This questioner asks, saying: What is the ruling on one who denies the punishment of the grave, whether he is joking or serious?
The Shaykh : Whether
The questioner : Whether he is joking or serious.
The Shaykh : Whether or not. With the fathah. Why?[Al-Baqarah 2:6], [Al-Munafiqun 63:6] So it is with the rafa, yes, it returned.
The questioner : He says: The master.
The Shaykh : The singular is placed first.[Al-Munafiqun 63:6] The estimation is that your seeking forgiveness for them and its absence are the same, yes.
The questioner : What is the ruling on one who denies the punishment of the grave, whether he is joking or serious?
The Shaykh : One who denies the punishment of the grave after knowing that it is established by the Book and the Sunnah is a denier of Allah and His Messenger, and the denier of Allah and His Messenger is a disbeliever. And the statement of the questioner, whether serious or joking: Know that what causes a person to become a disbeliever, meaning what is the cause of disbelief, there is no difference between the serious and the joking in it; rather, the joking one may be greater, due to the saying of Allah the Exalted[At-Tawbah 9:65-66] And religion is not a joke, so whoever mocks Allah or His verses or His Messenger is a disbeliever.
The Shaykh : Whether
The questioner : Whether he is joking or serious.
The Shaykh : Whether or not. With the fathah. Why?
it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them
سَوَاءٌ عَلَيْهِمْ أَأَنذَرْتَهُمْ أَمْ لَمْ تُنذِرْهُمْIt is all the same for them whether you ask forgiveness for them or do not ask forgiveness for them
سَوَاءٌ عَلَيْهِمْ أَسْتَغْفَرْتَ لَهُمْ أَمْ لَمْ تَسْتَغْفِرْ لَهُمْThe questioner : He says: The master.
The Shaykh : The singular is placed first.
It is all the same for them whether you ask forgiveness for them or do not ask forgiveness for them
سَوَاءٌ عَلَيْهِمْ أَسْتَغْفَرْتَ لَهُمْ أَمْ لَمْ تَسْتَغْفِرْ لَهُمْThe questioner : What is the ruling on one who denies the punishment of the grave, whether he is joking or serious?
The Shaykh : One who denies the punishment of the grave after knowing that it is established by the Book and the Sunnah is a denier of Allah and His Messenger, and the denier of Allah and His Messenger is a disbeliever. And the statement of the questioner, whether serious or joking: Know that what causes a person to become a disbeliever, meaning what is the cause of disbelief, there is no difference between the serious and the joking in it; rather, the joking one may be greater, due to the saying of Allah the Exalted
(65) And if you ask them, they will surely say, "We were only conversing and playing." Say, "Is it Allah and His verses and His Messenger that you were mocking?" (66) Make no excuse; you have disbelieved after your belief. If We pardon one faction of you - We will punish another faction because they were criminals.
وَلَئِن سَأَلْتَهُمْ لَيَقُولُنَّ إِنَّمَا كُنَّا نَخُوضُ وَنَلْعَبُ قُلْ أَبِاللَّهِ وَآيَاتِهِ وَرَسُولِهِ كُنتُمْ تَسْتَهْزِئُونَ لَا تَعْتَذِرُوا قَدْ كَفَرْتُم بَعْدَ إِيمَانِكُمْ
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