A discussion regarding the ruling on calling the common people to follow the Sunnah in matters of independent legal reasoning.

The Shaykh : I wanted to clarify, but I added an error. What are you afraid of? The call to the truth? Are you afraid of it? I mean, did the Messenger!

The questioner : May Allah reward you with good. Sometimes it may be a cause, meaning, if you find a person following a school of jurisprudence, is that better for us in our stability in the religion, or that he follows... You wanted to convince him with knowledge, but you made him scattered... So which is more dangerous in your view?

The Shaykh : Your saying: "I made him scattered" is an error, and I will clarify for you. My brother, either you believe the Salafi call is the truth, or it is not the truth, and your words are clear, and we have known you for a long time. So how do you imagine that the call to the truth would be a cause of misguidance?! You are saying to me, you forgot what word I said, but it is not a good word that I misguide him or scatter him, as you said, and so on.

The questioner : He scattered him.

The Shaykh : The Salafi call is a call to the truth, so I called a person from among the people whom I do not know at all. I do not know if he is a scholar, I do not know if he is ignorant, I do not know if he is fanatical for the truth or for falsehood, I know nothing about him, but I know he prays with us in the mosque. So I called him to this call. Did I err or did I hit the mark?

The questioner : I will answer you with a known rule.

The Shaykh : Do not set limits, then you give me a rule. I have shown you what I did. A person in the mosque, I saw him err in a Sunnah of the Sunnahs of prayer, in an obligatory matter of the obligations of prayer, or something higher than that. So I came and said to him: "My brother, the Sunnah is like this, and the Messenger said such and such," and so on. And he was fanatical. So I called him to the Sunnah. Did I err or did I hit the mark?

The questioner : What will happen after this call!

The Shaykh : I do not know what will happen after that, my brother.

The questioner : ... We are living in a certain environment and receiving certain ideas.

The Shaykh : Do you not want to live in reality?

The questioner : Yes.

The Shaykh : The reality is that this discussion is more beneficial to me than a hundred lessons. Do you know why? Because it will reveal matters that people need to know the truth of. The call says, "We are a call to the truth." When were we commanded to call? When we uncover the heart of the person we want to call, and we see that he is a good and righteous man with a readiness to accept the call, and we do not throw your word and walk away?! When do we call? If you say the first option, no one will agree with you on this. The Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him), who is the master of callers and the master of the prophets, sometimes called a person and he hastened to follow him, and sometimes called a person and he fought him with the fiercest fighting, and he separated him from the beloved ones, and so on, and he is the Messenger of Allah. So when we want to call to a call, and we do not know what its effects will be, what do we do? Do we conceal it?

The questioner : I have given the answer.

The Shaykh : I say: I do not know whether the word of truth that I will say, I do not know its result for this person or for this society. Is it permissible for me, according to the Shari'ah, to call to it and not conceal it in my chest? Say it.

The questioner : I understood it!

The Shaykh : And do I not repeat my question to you?

The questioner : You said: I do not know.

The Shaykh : Yes, I do not know. What do you not know?

The questioner : A fundamental issue!

The Shaykh : Let me give you an example: Is prayer fundamental or creedal? What is prayer, a creedal thing?

The questioner : Prayer is creedal, without doubt.

The Shaykh : No, in the terminology of the scholars, it is not creedal.

The questioner : Creedal matters are rulings, of course.

The Shaykh : No, now I will ask a scientific question: Is it creedal or a branch? All of prayer is a branch, it is not creedal according to the scholars who brought us this philosophy of principles and branches, and so on. The important thing, my brother: A matter where I saw a person err, suppose it is whatever you wish from the recommended and upward, okay?

The questioner: Yes.

The Shaykh : So, is it permissible for me, according to the Shari'ah, to advise this Muslim while I do not know what the result of my advice to him will be? Is it permissible for me, according to the Shari'ah, or not?

The questioner : We advise.

The Shaykh: How?

The questioner : But if you expect that he will increase!

The Shaykh : I tell you, my dear: I do not know, I do not know, because the unseen is known only by the Lord of the worlds.

The questioner : This is a theoretical issue, known issues.

The Shaykh : How are they known issues? Now, if you see a person praying and wearing a gold ring!

The questioner : This is forbidden.

The Shaykh : Be patient, be patient, and I said to him: "My brother, may Allah be pleased with you, you came to pray with us, which is proof that you are a good man who preserves prayer and congregation," and so on. But this gold ring is forbidden, at least for men. So I will tell you, to increase your closeness to Allah, meaning we softened it as much as we could. He said to me: "Without harshness, O Messenger of Allah, what is this regression, what is this, we now have bigger problems," and so on. And his enthusiasm flared up, and it became a problem in the mosque. Does this come to my mind? It does not come to my mind. Did I err or did I hit the mark?

The questioner : You are correct.

The Shaykh : Why?

The questioner : Because you confronted him!

The Shaykh : Because I said the word of truth. Summarize it with me.

The questioner: Of course.

The Shaykh : Because I said the word of truth. So if I said to a person: The Messenger (peace be upon him) said: , he stood up and flared up against me. What is your opinion? Is there a difference between this and that? The summary, my brother, is this.

The questioner : If it is another hadith that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) postponed some matters because the minds of the people had not reached understanding of them, like the issue of the Ka'bah.

The Shaykh : My dear, this is regarding the general society. I am speaking regarding individuals. He postponed the renewal of the Ka'bah because he feared the nation, which was newly converted from shirk, would rise up against him. But regarding individuals, do we have psychological scales by which we can discover the preparation of every person? We wanted to be, meaning, somewhat strong in faith and in speech, not by striking or by changing the state. We come and say: We need to see if this man will accept from us or not. And all this speech, meaning, where it should be practical, is theoretical in reality. We do not perform this duty. We are very short with the nation. We must raise our voices in the mosques, and the audience who cannot hear it here should hear it, because he does not come here. With our shortcoming, we receive sermons, we receive reminders: that, my brother, perhaps he did not accept from you. By Allah, I wish I did not care about anything. Sometimes Satan whispers to me: "Keep serving the Sunnah and keep going with these simple meetings without coming out to the society." In the end, perhaps your companion did not hit the mark before you. Either you are silent and a person is silent, or you leave this land and withdraw to this corner, and you grieve for the oppressive people. This is how I think sometimes. So I am short, and we are all short. Nevertheless, it is feared that it will be said: "This person spoke words that some people did not understand." Well, I am sorry to say: "And what is it to us if the cows do not understand?" If we have spoken the word of truth, as I tell you, and then some people flared up and did not understand, what do I do for him? I am not obligated.

The questioner : You are speaking about the Salafi call.

The Shaykh : Yes?

The questioner : If you speak in this manner, what will happen?

The Shaykh : What manner?

The questioner : ... .

The Shaykh : This is a shift from one question to another. I did not say this except in regret.

The questioner : Pardon me.

The Shaykh : Yes.

The questioner : ... .

The Shaykh : It would have been, without doubt, it would have been. Why are you not seeing it? This is not what you see with your eye?

The questioner : Excuse me, unfortunately, many of the Salafis divide, and many of them curse each other...

The Shaykh : It is not our concern, but we say: We look forward to good, the call is in good, but it is moving slowly, and the cause of the slowness is clear, which is the scarcity of men...

The questioner : The other matter: Many of the scholars are silent regarding the common people. We try to avoid such a thing!

The Shaykh : Where are the scholars?

The questioner : ... Perhaps he will verify!

The Shaykh : Where are the scholars, my brother, the scholars!

The questioner : ... If we turn to what you said...

The Shaykh : And how is the turning? This question is repeated again. How is the turning? Two ways!

The questioner : ... .

The Shaykh : Be patient a little. How is the turning to the scholars? It is either by writing treatises, and this is what we do. Or by calling them to hold meetings where we reconcile, and this is what we do, and we call the people to it, and then we do not answer, so what do we do? And this is enough, and we ask Allah (Mighty and Majestic).