The Shaykh’s question to the student: Do the da'is, like Shaykh Rabee', have a bias against Salman al-Oudah and his associates?

The Shaykh: All right, you have not seen the lectures or speeches of the other party, like Rabee', for example, in their bias against them.
The student: By Allah, in the lectures there is no bias, but in a private session.

The Shaykh: You are recording it.
The student: Yes, by Allah, Shaykh.

The Shaykh: Frankly, in a private session there was bias, meaning it was actually severe. I was surprised by it; I was surprised that it would come from them.

The Shaykh: What is it?
The student: Severe bias against them.

The Shaykh : From whom?
The student: From Shaykh Rabee'.

The Shaykh: Shaykh Rabee' and others?
The student: I have not heard it from anyone else. In some tapes, I heard from some of their shaykhs.

The Shaykh: All right, for example, what is the point of bias regarding Rabee', for example?
The student: I will say it, meaning.

The Shaykh : Yes, please.
The student: It is strong, O Shaykh. He says that these people, or the group of Sarur, their goal is to overthrow the Arab rulers and remove the scholars. That is what he said.

The Shaykh: He states this explicitly.
The student: He does not state it in a session.

The Shaykh: Yes, in a session.
The student: So I was surprised by this statement.

The Shaykh: And you were present at the session.
The student: Some of the brothers were there, and I attended with them.

The Shaykh: Yes, what was your position regarding him?
The student: Silence. Many of our brothers, or some of our brothers, were silent, meaning.

The Shaykh : Why?
The student: Meaning neither acceptance nor...

The Shaykh : Why?
The student: Meaning, should we defend them at that time?

The Shaykh: You do not defend; you verify that this statement is true.
The student: Some of your brothers here... meaning, he was saying the same thing, so one of our brothers there discussed it with him and said to him, "What is your proof? What is your evidence? Or what is your disagreement with them in 'aqidah? Is their 'aqidah Salafi or not?" He said, "They declare the rulers disbelievers."

The Shaykh : Hmm.
The student: They declare the rulers disbelievers, takfiri.

The Shaykh: Yes, they declare them disbelievers.
The student: He said to him, "What is your proof? What is the evidence?" There is no evidence, it is just reported about this... statement...