Is it valid to cite the hadith: (When she goes out, Satan looks at her) as evidence for the 'awrah (part of the body that must be covered) of a woman's face?
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The Shaykh : So, if you want to look into the hadith, here, please, what do you have regarding the hadith
The questioner :
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The questioner : This is general, may Allah protect you, is that not so?
The Shaykh : General, yes.
The questioner : It includes the face and other parts.
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The questioner : So what specifies the face?
The Shaykh : Your statement, your statement, that it is permissible for a woman to uncover her eye or her two eyes, does the hadith remain general?
The questioner : If no one had said that.
The Shaykh : You have not answered me.
The questioner : Suppose I do not hold this opinion, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : What?
The questioner : I do not say that uncovering the eye or the two eyes is permissible; rather, I see that covering the face is obligatory in all cases.
The Shaykh : Yes, this is a problem, meaning they say in Syria "We were under the rain, and we became under the gutter", meaning the gutter. Well, so that we do not argue, and perhaps we will return to the issue of applying this generality to the reality of women today. Do you say by the implication of the hadithMuwatta Malik 20:17
The questioner : This is a departure from the hadith. It must be the same hadith. That is another hadith. The implication is without a doubt.
The Shaykh : How do I connect this with your hadith? You only need to express your opinion so that we return to your hadith. My question was very brief, and you do not need to say, "I say by the implication of this hadith" or "I do not say it." You are as you see.
The questioner : Yes, I say by it.
The Shaykh : Well, what is its implication? What does its implication indicate?
The questioner : The permissibility of uncovering the eye.
The student: ... the permissibility of a woman wearing the niqab (the face veil).
The questioner : The Shaykh wants to reach this implication.
The Shaykh : I mean, do you think, Professor, that you have revealed a secret? Here, what do you have?
The questioner : But finish this limit.
The Shaykh : Well, listen to me.
The questioner : I mean, he is saying, O Shaykh, that wearing the niqab (the face veil) is permissible.
The student: No, no, we do not say that, that is that.
The questioner : That is it, but the Shaykh wants to refute. I told him, suppose I see... so he said with this hadith, so I have no argument in the hadith, the hadith.
The student: The woman is 'awrah (the part of the body that must be covered).
The questioner : It is considered a specification.
The Shaykh : Yes, that is what Abu Yasir wants, is that not so?
The student: ... and all your food is the righteous.
The questioner : We say, complete your statement, O Shaykh, or we ask another question.
The Shaykh : Since he, may Allah bless you, has made it clear that no one says by the generality of the hadith, as for me, I have a statement regarding the verse. What is the jilbab (the outer garment) known in the time of the revelation of the verse in your view?
The questioner : The jilbab (the outer garment) known among the Arabs.
The Shaykh : And you are Arabs, so what is it?
The questioner : The Arabs...
The Shaykh : Ah?
The questioner : The Shaykh intended, does it cover the face or not cover the face?
The Shaykh : Of course.
The questioner : Return, return with you, O Shaykh.
The student: It means do not enter a discussion when you do not know.
The questioner : O Shaykh, I ask your permission for a question, but it is about the issue of hijab (the covering prescribed for women).
The Shaykh : If they allow you.
The questioner : It is outside the issue of evidence and outside this.
The Shaykh : I mean, do you want to enter logic now, is that not so?
The questioner : No, there is no logic or anything.
The Shaykh : Please go ahead.
A woman is an awrah
المرأة عورةThe questioner :
When she goes out, Satan looks at her
فإذا خرحت استشرفها الشيطانThe Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The questioner : This is general, may Allah protect you, is that not so?
The Shaykh : General, yes.
The questioner : It includes the face and other parts.
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The questioner : So what specifies the face?
The Shaykh : Your statement, your statement, that it is permissible for a woman to uncover her eye or her two eyes, does the hadith remain general?
The questioner : If no one had said that.
The Shaykh : You have not answered me.
The questioner : Suppose I do not hold this opinion, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : What?
The questioner : I do not say that uncovering the eye or the two eyes is permissible; rather, I see that covering the face is obligatory in all cases.
The Shaykh : Yes, this is a problem, meaning they say in Syria "We were under the rain, and we became under the gutter", meaning the gutter. Well, so that we do not argue, and perhaps we will return to the issue of applying this generality to the reality of women today. Do you say by the implication of the hadith
a woman in ihram should wear neither a veil nor gloves
لا تنتقب المرأة المحرمة ولا تلبس القفازينThe questioner : This is a departure from the hadith. It must be the same hadith. That is another hadith. The implication is without a doubt.
The Shaykh : How do I connect this with your hadith? You only need to express your opinion so that we return to your hadith. My question was very brief, and you do not need to say, "I say by the implication of this hadith" or "I do not say it." You are as you see.
The questioner : Yes, I say by it.
The Shaykh : Well, what is its implication? What does its implication indicate?
The questioner : The permissibility of uncovering the eye.
The student: ... the permissibility of a woman wearing the niqab (the face veil).
The questioner : The Shaykh wants to reach this implication.
The Shaykh : I mean, do you think, Professor, that you have revealed a secret? Here, what do you have?
The questioner : But finish this limit.
The Shaykh : Well, listen to me.
The questioner : I mean, he is saying, O Shaykh, that wearing the niqab (the face veil) is permissible.
The student: No, no, we do not say that, that is that.
The questioner : That is it, but the Shaykh wants to refute. I told him, suppose I see... so he said with this hadith, so I have no argument in the hadith, the hadith.
The student: The woman is 'awrah (the part of the body that must be covered).
The questioner : It is considered a specification.
The Shaykh : Yes, that is what Abu Yasir wants, is that not so?
The student: ... and all your food is the righteous.
The questioner : We say, complete your statement, O Shaykh, or we ask another question.
The Shaykh : Since he, may Allah bless you, has made it clear that no one says by the generality of the hadith
A woman is an awrah
المرأة عورةThe questioner : The jilbab (the outer garment) known among the Arabs.
The Shaykh : And you are Arabs, so what is it?
The questioner : The Arabs...
The Shaykh : Ah?
The questioner : The Shaykh intended, does it cover the face or not cover the face?
The Shaykh : Of course.
The questioner : Return, return with you, O Shaykh.
The student: It means do not enter a discussion when you do not know.
The questioner : O Shaykh, I ask your permission for a question, but it is about the issue of hijab (the covering prescribed for women).
The Shaykh : If they allow you.
The questioner : It is outside the issue of evidence and outside this.
The Shaykh : I mean, do you want to enter logic now, is that not so?
The questioner : No, there is no logic or anything.
The Shaykh : Please go ahead.