Discussion of the issue of a woman covering her face, and citing the hadith: (A woman is 'awrah).
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The Shaykh : Now, regarding this hadith, I have read everything that has been written on this issue, and I found that they deviate from the point, which is an argument against them, without mentioning the contrary. For example:
They mention it, and I am telling you, his saying (peace and blessings be upon him) is fine. This hadith is sufficient for what you want.
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : Okay, Yes, this hadith. Is its indication from the path of the text that a woman's face is 'awrah and a woman's hand is 'awrah, or is its indication from the aspect of generality?
The questioner : Generality.
The Shaykh : Generality. Do you see? Is the indication of generality definitive or presumptive? This is related to the science of usul al-fiqh (the principles of jurisprudence). There is no doubt that the indication of generality is presumptive, meaning it provides the stronger probability, because in many cases, a general text is subject to specification. This has occurred, and there is no harm in it, in the Book and the Sunnah. How many texts of the Book and the Sunnah have their indication by way of generality that do not cover every part of the generality? Why? Because specification has entered them. The most famous example of this is[Al-Ma'idah 5:3] but the Messenger says So specification entered this verse through the hadith of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him), and we are not currently discussing this point.
Now we say: Who believes in the generality of this hadith? It is supposed that you are the first to believe in taking the generality of this hadith, and I say you are the first to negate taking this generality. What is your opinion?
The questioner : how
The Shaykh : You do not take this generality.
The questioner : How is that?
The Shaykh : Ah, how is this? Is it permissible for a woman to uncover her eyes or not permissible?
The questioner : It is not permissible, O Shaykh, in most cases.
The Shaykh : Allah knows best.
The questioner : Yes, its indication.
The Shaykh : How do you do that?
The questioner : No.
The Shaykh : how
The questioner : We have, among us,
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : In our women, in our village and in our region, they do not uncover their eyes.
The Shaykh : No, no, I do not mean among you and your customs in your Shari'ah.
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : In your Shari'ah.
The questioner : You know, O Shaykh, that is the case, meaning.
The Shaykh : I know, may Allah bless you, it is correct, but you are mixing customs and traditions with the Shari'ah. Therefore, distinction must be made. Distinction must be made. Now, does not Allah (Mighty and Majestic) say in the Noble Qur'an[Al-Ahzab 33:59] Okay, I am asking you now, you who say yes, we do this, do you obligate on the woman more than the jilbab? Tell me yes or no.
The questioner : ... If there is a difference from the jilbab, yes, the abaya.
The Shaykh : So tell me, O Professor, because you are the one carrying the banner of defense.
The questioner : May Allah guide you, O Shaykh, I am not carrying a banner.
The Shaykh : The banner of defense.
The questioner : We benefit from you, if Allah wills.
The Shaykh : What, may Allah bless you?
The questioner : What we are supposed to know is that the jilbab is what covers the woman, as an obligation, on her face, from her head to her face to the bottom, meaning.
The Shaykh : Okay, cover it to see. The jilbab, suppose it is this ghutrah that is on your head, it is the long garment that the woman wears when she goes out of her house. Cover it to see the face.
The questioner : This, when I cover it with this, it does not cover, and I walk, I do not see. But the jilbab known for it is the black cover, like what we women take now, the women cover their faces with black. This, and you do not see the prohibition.
The Shaykh : No, you are very mistaken. Now, you have not answered me the question, and therefore the issue has precision, so I hope you pay attention with me. Our Lord said[Al-Ahzab 33:59] Is this not the obligation?
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : Okay, I asked and you did not answer. Is it obligatory for the woman to put something other than the jilbab when she goes out of her house?
The questioner : By the text of the verse, no.
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : No.
The Shaykh : But I see you are very cautious. You say by the text of the verse. Is there another text?
The questioner : I do not know of another text.
The Shaykh : Good.
The questioner : The little knowledge, I do not know its text.
The Shaykh : Very good. Your caution is good. Finally, meaning, okay, may Allah bless you.
Now, she is not obligated except the jilbab. I said this ghutrah, suppose it is the jilbab that covers the woman's whole body. Cover it to see the face.
The questioner : I cover it.
The Shaykh : Ah
The questioner : Cover it, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Okay, walk.
The questioner : No, I do not walk, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : So what do you do?
The questioner : Ah?
The Shaykh : What do you do in that case when you walk?
The questioner : It is possible, this jilbab that you see, O Shaykh, I can leave it on the area below my neck, thick, suppose.
The Shaykh : how
The questioner : Thick, meaning, and above I leave it light to the extent that I see what is in front of me.
The Shaykh : This is how the jilbabs were in the time of the Messenger.
The questioner : I do not know. I swear by Allah, I was not in the time of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him). Perhaps they were.
They mention it, and I am telling you, his saying (peace and blessings be upon him)
A woman is an awrah
المرأة عورةThe questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : Okay,
A woman is an awrah
المرأة عورةThe questioner : Generality.
The Shaykh : Generality. Do you see? Is the indication of generality definitive or presumptive? This is related to the science of usul al-fiqh (the principles of jurisprudence). There is no doubt that the indication of generality is presumptive, meaning it provides the stronger probability, because in many cases, a general text is subject to specification. This has occurred, and there is no harm in it, in the Book and the Sunnah. How many texts of the Book and the Sunnah have their indication by way of generality that do not cover every part of the generality? Why? Because specification has entered them. The most famous example of this is
Prohibited to you are dead animals
حرمت عليكم الميتةTwo carrion animals were made lawful for us
أحلت لنا ميتتانNow we say:
A woman is an awrah
المرأة عورةThe questioner : how
The Shaykh : You do not take this generality.
The questioner : How is that?
The Shaykh : Ah, how is this? Is it permissible for a woman to uncover her eyes or not permissible?
The questioner : It is not permissible, O Shaykh, in most cases.
The Shaykh : Allah knows best.
The questioner : Yes, its indication.
The Shaykh : How do you do that?
The questioner : No.
The Shaykh : how
The questioner : We have, among us,
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : In our women, in our village and in our region, they do not uncover their eyes.
The Shaykh : No, no, I do not mean among you and your customs in your Shari'ah.
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : In your Shari'ah.
The questioner : You know, O Shaykh, that is the case, meaning.
The Shaykh : I know, may Allah bless you, it is correct, but you are mixing customs and traditions with the Shari'ah. Therefore, distinction must be made. Distinction must be made. Now, does not Allah (Mighty and Majestic) say in the Noble Qur'an
O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves [part] of their outer garments
يا أيها النبي قل لأزواجك بناتك ونساء المؤمنين يدنين عليهن من جلابيبهنThe questioner : ... If there is a difference from the jilbab, yes, the abaya.
The Shaykh : So tell me, O Professor, because you are the one carrying the banner of defense.
The questioner : May Allah guide you, O Shaykh, I am not carrying a banner.
The Shaykh : The banner of defense.
The questioner : We benefit from you, if Allah wills.
The Shaykh : What, may Allah bless you?
The questioner : What we are supposed to know is that the jilbab is what covers the woman, as an obligation, on her face, from her head to her face to the bottom, meaning.
The Shaykh : Okay, cover it to see. The jilbab, suppose it is this ghutrah that is on your head, it is the long garment that the woman wears when she goes out of her house. Cover it to see the face.
The questioner : This, when I cover it with this, it does not cover, and I walk, I do not see. But the jilbab known for it is the black cover, like what we women take now, the women cover their faces with black. This, and you do not see the prohibition.
The Shaykh : No, you are very mistaken. Now, you have not answered me the question, and therefore the issue has precision, so I hope you pay attention with me. Our Lord said
to bring down over themselves [part] of their outer garments
يدنين عليهن من جلابيبهنThe questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : Okay, I asked and you did not answer. Is it obligatory for the woman to put something other than the jilbab when she goes out of her house?
The questioner : By the text of the verse, no.
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : No.
The Shaykh : But I see you are very cautious. You say by the text of the verse. Is there another text?
The questioner : I do not know of another text.
The Shaykh : Good.
The questioner : The little knowledge, I do not know its text.
The Shaykh : Very good. Your caution is good. Finally, meaning, okay, may Allah bless you.
Now, she is not obligated except the jilbab. I said this ghutrah, suppose it is the jilbab that covers the woman's whole body. Cover it to see the face.
The questioner : I cover it.
The Shaykh : Ah
The questioner : Cover it, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Okay, walk.
The questioner : No, I do not walk, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : So what do you do?
The questioner : Ah?
The Shaykh : What do you do in that case when you walk?
The questioner : It is possible, this jilbab that you see, O Shaykh, I can leave it on the area below my neck, thick, suppose.
The Shaykh : how
The questioner : Thick, meaning, and above I leave it light to the extent that I see what is in front of me.
The Shaykh : This is how the jilbabs were in the time of the Messenger.
The questioner : I do not know. I swear by Allah, I was not in the time of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him). Perhaps they were.