Continuation of the Shaykh's remarks regarding his transfer from Jordan to Syria, then to Lebanon, then to the UAE, and then his return to Jordan with the permission of King Hussein (may Allah have mercy on him).
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The Shaykh : And they kept moving us from place to place until they brought us to a location where there was a gathering, most of whom could be identified by their faces as being from the lowest of people, meaning
The questioner : criminals, meaning
The Shaykh : criminals, gathered with their suitcases, and the suitcases were wrapped around them, and there was a military vehicle in front of them, far from them, so I realized that these people were being deported. And in one of the centers to which they transferred me, one of them told me that you are now being ordered to be exiled to Syria. When we arrived at the center where the people and the suitcases were, a sergeant was telling them: "Come on, young men, get in." I was the last one. I resisted, and I said to their sergeant: "I am not going to Syria," knowing that my departure from Syria had also been normal, and this is a point that many people are unaware of, because a few months after my departure, the Syrian revolution occurred, so my departure was normal. But after I settled here, I felt it was better not to return to Syria for fear that they would put me under interrogation and questioning, and I was determined to reside here, and therefore I did not see it appropriate to return to Syria. So the sergeant, meaning, deceived me and lied to me and said to me: "We are not going to take you to Syria, we are taking you..." The important thing is that we got back in the car until they brought us to the Jordanian-Syrian border. There, a Jordanian officer took me over, and asked me, "What is your story, and so on?"
Of course, he had the news, so he allowed me to go to the Syrian border. The Syrian border, of course, requires you to enter and exit through official channels, so they questioned me as well, they interrogated me, so I told them the story, and they gave me a printed paper, of course, containing the decisions on what is permitted and what is forbidden, and it says in the footnote at the bottom: "You must report to Syrian Intelligence within a period of three days, under threat of prosecution for non-compliance." So I arrived in Damascus in the middle of the night and stayed at the house of a brother of mine there. The important thing is that I stayed there for two nights while I consulted with my brothers and our brothers, whether I should go to Syrian Intelligence or continue my journey and exit Syria. The opinions were unanimous that it is better for you not to meet with Intelligence, you do not know what they will do to you, and on this basis I decided and traveled to Lebanon. I stayed in Lebanon for approximately six months, or less, or more, I do not remember well. Then one of our brothers from the UAE came and brought me a permit to enter it, and I spent months there. Then some of our brothers here, such as Abu Malik and others, contacted the officials, until they conveyed the matter to the King that the Shaykh is neither a revolutionary man nor a political man, he is a man of knowledge. And this system, which at that time was represented by him and Badran, presented him with two boxes of books. He said to him: "This is the Shaykh." He was surprised.
And the important thing is that the King allowed the officials to permit the Shaykh to enter, and so it was. This is the story you asked about.
The questioner : A specific time...?
The Shaykh : No, now the Shaykh is asking so that we can go pray. When is your departure?
The questioner : Tonight, but is it possible, our Shaykh, meaning, we pray and then I take five minutes?
The Shaykh : Take it now.
The questioner : No, after the prayer, my heart will be at ease.
The Shaykh : How much time is left until the prayer?
The questioner : Ten minutes.
The Shaykh : Please, continue, come on.
The questioner : criminals, meaning
The Shaykh : criminals, gathered with their suitcases, and the suitcases were wrapped around them, and there was a military vehicle in front of them, far from them, so I realized that these people were being deported. And in one of the centers to which they transferred me, one of them told me that you are now being ordered to be exiled to Syria. When we arrived at the center where the people and the suitcases were, a sergeant was telling them: "Come on, young men, get in." I was the last one. I resisted, and I said to their sergeant: "I am not going to Syria," knowing that my departure from Syria had also been normal, and this is a point that many people are unaware of, because a few months after my departure, the Syrian revolution occurred, so my departure was normal. But after I settled here, I felt it was better not to return to Syria for fear that they would put me under interrogation and questioning, and I was determined to reside here, and therefore I did not see it appropriate to return to Syria. So the sergeant, meaning, deceived me and lied to me and said to me: "We are not going to take you to Syria, we are taking you..." The important thing is that we got back in the car until they brought us to the Jordanian-Syrian border. There, a Jordanian officer took me over, and asked me, "What is your story, and so on?"
Of course, he had the news, so he allowed me to go to the Syrian border. The Syrian border, of course, requires you to enter and exit through official channels, so they questioned me as well, they interrogated me, so I told them the story, and they gave me a printed paper, of course, containing the decisions on what is permitted and what is forbidden, and it says in the footnote at the bottom: "You must report to Syrian Intelligence within a period of three days, under threat of prosecution for non-compliance." So I arrived in Damascus in the middle of the night and stayed at the house of a brother of mine there. The important thing is that I stayed there for two nights while I consulted with my brothers and our brothers, whether I should go to Syrian Intelligence or continue my journey and exit Syria. The opinions were unanimous that it is better for you not to meet with Intelligence, you do not know what they will do to you, and on this basis I decided and traveled to Lebanon. I stayed in Lebanon for approximately six months, or less, or more, I do not remember well. Then one of our brothers from the UAE came and brought me a permit to enter it, and I spent months there. Then some of our brothers here, such as Abu Malik and others, contacted the officials, until they conveyed the matter to the King that the Shaykh is neither a revolutionary man nor a political man, he is a man of knowledge. And this system, which at that time was represented by him and Badran, presented him with two boxes of books. He said to him: "This is the Shaykh." He was surprised.
And the important thing is that the King allowed the officials to permit the Shaykh to enter, and so it was. This is the story you asked about.
The questioner : A specific time...?
The Shaykh : No, now the Shaykh is asking so that we can go pray. When is your departure?
The questioner : Tonight, but is it possible, our Shaykh, meaning, we pray and then I take five minutes?
The Shaykh : Take it now.
The questioner : No, after the prayer, my heart will be at ease.
The Shaykh : How much time is left until the prayer?
The questioner : Ten minutes.
The Shaykh : Please, continue, come on.