The issue of denying motion and movement in the descent and the coming of Allah (Mighty and Majestic)? And a question about the Shaykh's books, and about some of the narrators.
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The questioner : The issue of denying motion and movement in the descent and the coming of Allah (Mighty and Majestic)?
The Shaykh : ... .
The questioner : He says He comes.
The Shaykh : He comes and descends as He wills, just as He comes... As for the term "direction," it has not come in the texts, so we do not use it; just as Ibn Taymiyyah said regarding the term "direction": we neither deny it nor affirm it; because there is a danger in both denial and affirmation.
The questioner : But what about the one who says that Allah (Mighty and Majestic) descends, or that His descent is free from motion and movement?
The Shaykh : I say... Your answer is that we do not say neither negation nor affirmation, neither denial nor assertion.
The questioner : And who said this?
The Shaykh : He commits a sin.
The questioner : And al-Bayhaqi, in many of his works, when he dealt with the hadiths of the descent...
The Shaykh : He has Ash'ari tendencies; he is one of the imams of hadith and the Sunnah, but he has remnants of this, perhaps you know this and do not find it strange?
The questioner : No, our Shaykh Abu Bakr ibn Furuk.
The Shaykh : ... He is an Ash'ari.
The questioner : Fine, Shaykh, how many volumes are expected to be published from it?
The Shaykh : 12 volumes.
The questioner : Does that mean it is close to being published?
The Shaykh : By Allah, it is slow, because we do not have the temporal or material preparation. Now we are printing the fifth volume of the Da'if (weak) and the fifth volume of the Sahih (authentic), and re-printing the first volume... a re-print, which naturally contains new research, a long introduction..., in his thesis in which he tried to verify.
The questioner : Is this Ismail?
The Shaykh : It is Ismail...
The questioner : I say, unfortunately!
The Shaykh : This is a hater...
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : ... .
The questioner : And I have not seen anyone from the people of the Sunnah who approaches the innovators and refutes the people of the Sunnah in this heat, and he is...
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : The people of the Sunnah, I mean, no, and he tries to influence the students of knowledge, but praise be to Allah.
The Shaykh : Allah is the helper... and the narration of al-Layth, we will detail it.
The questioner : I cannot reconcile between them, but I say that it is an excuse for Imam Muslim in publishing the narration of Abu al-Zubayr from Jabir.
The Shaykh : I found an excuse that may be more correct than this excuse; because we do not know that Muslim considered Abu al-Zubayr to be a tadlis (concealer of a defect in a chain), so the fact that Ibn Hibban and others explicitly state that Abu al-Zubayr is a tadlis does not mean it must be so for Muslim, and they are more... , and based on that he narrated from him, so he does not need to do or... because we defend a thing with its like, but in this narration of his, after we verify the correctness of its transmission to Abu al-Zubayr, then we say: the narration of al-Zubayr is detailed and clarifying, so it overrides the narration of al-Mughirah, and this is what I say before I look at it, and I... the benefit, and we will see how this same narration... gives that Abu al-Zubayr heard all the hadiths he narrates from Jabir from him, so it is necessary to verify two things; the first is this, and it is the indication of the text to this meaning, the other thing: confirming the correctness of this narration from Abu al-Zubayr, and this is what we will go through - if Allah wills - .
The questioner : It came in the Friday chapter in "Sahih Muslim".
The Shaykh : It is defective from... to Abu Musa al-Ash'ari, and defective by anomaly or denunciation for contradicting the hadiths that specify that after the Throne...
The questioner : And Mukhrama ibn Bakir - also - did not hear from his father?
The Shaykh : Yes, but this has some interpretations; he used to transmit from his father's books and did not hear the book from him, this is considered a narration and a path; because it is not conceivable for a son to transmit from his father's book unless he knows it.
The questioner : And I think - Shaykh - the majority of those who narrated it from Abu Burdah stopped it at Abu Burdah himself.
The Shaykh : There is no doubt and no ambiguity.
The questioner : And it is not on...
The Shaykh : ... they narrated it stopped at Abu Burdah, not only on Abu Burdah.
The questioner : They narrated it stopped at Abu Burdah, but the most famous of the narrators... al-Ahdab, and a group of narrators, Abu Ishaq al-Sabi'i narrated it from Abu Burdah from his statement.
The Shaykh : This is possible; that it was narrated from Abu Musa stopped, so it exists, but that you say: the narrations in stopping the hadith at Abu Burdah... this is possible.
... ... ...
The Shaykh : ... .
The questioner : He says He comes.
The Shaykh : He comes and descends as He wills, just as He comes... As for the term "direction," it has not come in the texts, so we do not use it; just as Ibn Taymiyyah said regarding the term "direction": we neither deny it nor affirm it; because there is a danger in both denial and affirmation.
The questioner : But what about the one who says that Allah (Mighty and Majestic) descends, or that His descent is free from motion and movement?
The Shaykh : I say... Your answer is that we do not say neither negation nor affirmation, neither denial nor assertion.
The questioner : And who said this?
The Shaykh : He commits a sin.
The questioner : And al-Bayhaqi, in many of his works, when he dealt with the hadiths of the descent...
The Shaykh : He has Ash'ari tendencies; he is one of the imams of hadith and the Sunnah, but he has remnants of this, perhaps you know this and do not find it strange?
The questioner : No, our Shaykh Abu Bakr ibn Furuk.
The Shaykh : ... He is an Ash'ari.
The questioner : Fine, Shaykh, how many volumes are expected to be published from it?
The Shaykh : 12 volumes.
The questioner : Does that mean it is close to being published?
The Shaykh : By Allah, it is slow, because we do not have the temporal or material preparation. Now we are printing the fifth volume of the Da'if (weak) and the fifth volume of the Sahih (authentic), and re-printing the first volume... a re-print, which naturally contains new research, a long introduction..., in his thesis in which he tried to verify.
The questioner : Is this Ismail?
The Shaykh : It is Ismail...
The questioner : I say, unfortunately!
The Shaykh : This is a hater...
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : ... .
The questioner : And I have not seen anyone from the people of the Sunnah who approaches the innovators and refutes the people of the Sunnah in this heat, and he is...
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : The people of the Sunnah, I mean, no, and he tries to influence the students of knowledge, but praise be to Allah.
The Shaykh : Allah is the helper... and the narration of al-Layth, we will detail it.
The questioner : I cannot reconcile between them, but I say that it is an excuse for Imam Muslim in publishing the narration of Abu al-Zubayr from Jabir.
The Shaykh : I found an excuse that may be more correct than this excuse; because we do not know that Muslim considered Abu al-Zubayr to be a tadlis (concealer of a defect in a chain), so the fact that Ibn Hibban and others explicitly state that Abu al-Zubayr is a tadlis does not mean it must be so for Muslim, and they are more... , and based on that he narrated from him, so he does not need to do or... because we defend a thing with its like, but in this narration of his, after we verify the correctness of its transmission to Abu al-Zubayr, then we say: the narration of al-Zubayr is detailed and clarifying, so it overrides the narration of al-Mughirah, and this is what I say before I look at it, and I... the benefit, and we will see how this same narration... gives that Abu al-Zubayr heard all the hadiths he narrates from Jabir from him, so it is necessary to verify two things; the first is this, and it is the indication of the text to this meaning, the other thing: confirming the correctness of this narration from Abu al-Zubayr, and this is what we will go through - if Allah wills - .
The questioner : It came in the Friday chapter in "Sahih Muslim".
The Shaykh : It is defective from... to Abu Musa al-Ash'ari, and defective by anomaly or denunciation for contradicting the hadiths that specify that after the Throne...
The questioner : And Mukhrama ibn Bakir - also - did not hear from his father?
The Shaykh : Yes, but this has some interpretations; he used to transmit from his father's books and did not hear the book from him, this is considered a narration and a path; because it is not conceivable for a son to transmit from his father's book unless he knows it.
The questioner : And I think - Shaykh - the majority of those who narrated it from Abu Burdah stopped it at Abu Burdah himself.
The Shaykh : There is no doubt and no ambiguity.
The questioner : And it is not on...
The Shaykh : ... they narrated it stopped at Abu Burdah, not only on Abu Burdah.
The questioner : They narrated it stopped at Abu Burdah, but the most famous of the narrators... al-Ahdab, and a group of narrators, Abu Ishaq al-Sabi'i narrated it from Abu Burdah from his statement.
The Shaykh : This is possible; that it was narrated from Abu Musa stopped, so it exists, but that you say: the narrations in stopping the hadith at Abu Burdah... this is possible.
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