A discussion regarding al-Alusi's book, "What the Qur'an Indicates That Supports the New Sound System with Strong Proof."
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The questioner : Your comment on al-Alusi's book on "the system"... meaning, avoiding this... this causes confusion for some people, especially those who have looked into these sciences, when they hear the opinion of some people here.
The Shaykh : Why should there be confusion, when I distinguish the authentic from the weak? What is the problem with that?
The questioner : For a place of trust.
The Shaykh : If a book on astronomy or geography were presented to me, containing authentic and weak hadiths and so on, and I served this book from the hadith perspective; what is the doubt in this?
The questioner : There is no doubt, but one of the teachers at the Islamic University told us, and I said to him, this is a clear error, but he thinks like we do, even though he has only looked into these sciences.
The Shaykh : What is the error, my brother?
The questioner : I mean their belief in this matter, that it is necessary.
The Shaykh : Be frank, my brother, what is the error?
The questioner : For example, what they say is that the earth, for instance...
The Shaykh : May Allah forgive you, it appears that you are mistaken, and you feel yourself that you are mistaken, and therefore you do not have the courage to state what you believe, and even if this error is attributed to you or to someone else, what is this erroneous opinion?
The questioner : That the earth, for instance, is stationary.
The Shaykh : The earth is stationary? Do you believe that the earth is stationary?
The questioner : I do not think so.
The Shaykh : So then?
The questioner : No, I am not speaking about myself only, I am speaking about those who adhere to the existence of this, if they come into conflict with this, especially when they hear from so-and-so and so-and-so.
The Shaykh : My brother, may Allah bless you, be eloquent for the sake of the Arabs, when you say "this," what does this demonstrative pronoun refer to?
The questioner : To the one who says this statement.
The Shaykh : And what is it?
The questioner : It is not a specific person only, because a group of people say this.
The Shaykh : And what? What is the stated opinion? What is it? I do not say this belief.
The questioner : That the earth, for instance, is stationary, or for instance the celestial body.
The Shaykh : What does the book say? The book that you are currently talking about, and I have traced its hadiths, what does it say?
The questioner : I have not looked into it.
The Shaykh : May Allah forgive you, then you are speaking without knowledge.
The questioner : No, I am asking you about those who say this, or that it is a scientific error, and that this is clear, like their saying the earth is stationary or such and such.
The Shaykh : You do not know what is in the book, why do you speak without knowledge?
The questioner : I am asking you about something I heard.
The Shaykh : What is the thing that you heard?
The questioner : Their saying the earth is stationary, for instance, or that for instance the system...
The Shaykh : People, you are saying the earth is stationary, it is not the author who says the earth is stationary!
The questioner : This is what...
The Shaykh : The people of the Sunnah do not do this, the people of the Sunnah are frank in their speech, you are saying that the earth is stationary, so what is your objection to me for having traced this book?
The questioner : I am not objecting to you, I am saying that this book did not reach me, had I looked into it, I tried to search for it but I did not find it, I am saying this scientific error that says, for example, the earth is stationary, I consider it a scientific error, okay? How do we classify these people?
The Shaykh : You did not start the conversation this way, you - O Shaykh - may Allah guide you! You started the conversation with how do you trace this book and clarify its hadiths and so on, and then you followed me in the conversation, and I followed you - also - until we reached this point, you did not raise it.
The questioner : Okay, we reached the point.
The Shaykh : What do you believe, is the earth stationary or moving?
The questioner : No, it is moving.
The Shaykh : Okay, announce it to the people.
The questioner: Is this it?
The Shaykh : That is it.
The questioner : The book, even your book, did not reach us, for example, an opinion of someone...
The Shaykh : I am not a publisher, request the book from the publisher.
The Shaykh : Why should there be confusion, when I distinguish the authentic from the weak? What is the problem with that?
The questioner : For a place of trust.
The Shaykh : If a book on astronomy or geography were presented to me, containing authentic and weak hadiths and so on, and I served this book from the hadith perspective; what is the doubt in this?
The questioner : There is no doubt, but one of the teachers at the Islamic University told us, and I said to him, this is a clear error, but he thinks like we do, even though he has only looked into these sciences.
The Shaykh : What is the error, my brother?
The questioner : I mean their belief in this matter, that it is necessary.
The Shaykh : Be frank, my brother, what is the error?
The questioner : For example, what they say is that the earth, for instance...
The Shaykh : May Allah forgive you, it appears that you are mistaken, and you feel yourself that you are mistaken, and therefore you do not have the courage to state what you believe, and even if this error is attributed to you or to someone else, what is this erroneous opinion?
The questioner : That the earth, for instance, is stationary.
The Shaykh : The earth is stationary? Do you believe that the earth is stationary?
The questioner : I do not think so.
The Shaykh : So then?
The questioner : No, I am not speaking about myself only, I am speaking about those who adhere to the existence of this, if they come into conflict with this, especially when they hear from so-and-so and so-and-so.
The Shaykh : My brother, may Allah bless you, be eloquent for the sake of the Arabs, when you say "this," what does this demonstrative pronoun refer to?
The questioner : To the one who says this statement.
The Shaykh : And what is it?
The questioner : It is not a specific person only, because a group of people say this.
The Shaykh : And what? What is the stated opinion? What is it? I do not say this belief.
The questioner : That the earth, for instance, is stationary, or for instance the celestial body.
The Shaykh : What does the book say? The book that you are currently talking about, and I have traced its hadiths, what does it say?
The questioner : I have not looked into it.
The Shaykh : May Allah forgive you, then you are speaking without knowledge.
The questioner : No, I am asking you about those who say this, or that it is a scientific error, and that this is clear, like their saying the earth is stationary or such and such.
The Shaykh : You do not know what is in the book, why do you speak without knowledge?
The questioner : I am asking you about something I heard.
The Shaykh : What is the thing that you heard?
The questioner : Their saying the earth is stationary, for instance, or that for instance the system...
The Shaykh : People, you are saying the earth is stationary, it is not the author who says the earth is stationary!
The questioner : This is what...
The Shaykh : The people of the Sunnah do not do this, the people of the Sunnah are frank in their speech, you are saying that the earth is stationary, so what is your objection to me for having traced this book?
The questioner : I am not objecting to you, I am saying that this book did not reach me, had I looked into it, I tried to search for it but I did not find it, I am saying this scientific error that says, for example, the earth is stationary, I consider it a scientific error, okay? How do we classify these people?
The Shaykh : You did not start the conversation this way, you - O Shaykh - may Allah guide you! You started the conversation with how do you trace this book and clarify its hadiths and so on, and then you followed me in the conversation, and I followed you - also - until we reached this point, you did not raise it.
The questioner : Okay, we reached the point.
The Shaykh : What do you believe, is the earth stationary or moving?
The questioner : No, it is moving.
The Shaykh : Okay, announce it to the people.
The questioner: Is this it?
The Shaykh : That is it.
The questioner : The book, even your book, did not reach us, for example, an opinion of someone...
The Shaykh : I am not a publisher, request the book from the publisher.
Source
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