The Ruling on Sectarianism and Party Loyalty
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The Shaykh: For a Muslim to say, "I am Syrian," and that one is Egyptian, and another is from Hijaz, and so on, there is no objection to this, because this reminds one of the reality of this person in terms of his nationality, and in terms of creed and school of jurisprudence... But when the schools of jurisprudence mix and multiply and become seventy-three sects, all in the Fire except one, then if we say "we are Muslims," we have not expressed... and we have mixed with others. In reality, this is a great doubt that we hear often and very often. So when we say that we have agreed not to say anything other than what Allah named us, what proportion do we represent of the Muslim community that has divided into seventy-three sects? A white dot... Has the problem disappeared? There are those who say, "I am Hanafi, I am Shafi'i, I am Maliki, I am Hanbali, I am a party member, I am... I am Shadhili, I am Shi'ite, I am Zaydi, and so on." So we are tolerant. Yes?
The questioner: And my da'wah, and I am...
The Shaykh: We are tolerant by relinquishing the proportion... It is perhaps very important... We relinquish the proportion of those who disavowed it... In my opinion, whoever disavowed it while knowing what he disavowed is a disbeliever. We relinquish this proportion, while others cling to persons, no matter how high their status, how elevated their knowledge, and how righteous they are; they are persons. So this one is Hanafi, so he is strict in his Hanafiism... They are not satisfied with... So when we simply relinquish it to say: Allah named us Muslims. Fine, a questioner will ask you: Are you Hanafi? ... No, can you say you are Hanafi? No, Shafi'i? He keeps listing them. So what are you? Ah, I am a Muslim. Why do you hide yourself? He is a Muslim...
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner: ... Shi'ite... and he tells you, "I am a Muslim."
Another questioner: No, no, in that case, the implication of the opposite is that I am a Muslim and you are not a Muslim. That means you are judging... That means if we call the Salafis Muslims, then the Shi'ite is not a Muslim, and every other sect is not a Muslim in your view. The Salafi is a Muslim!
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The Shaykh: ... and we gave, for example, just now, and this is naturally a more appropriate example.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Yes, yes.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: I told you just now, and this is more appropriate, this example is more appropriate.
The questioner: And originally, the people of the Sunnah means the Salaf. In the era of the Salaf, when the fitnah of the Khawarij began... then after that, there were the people of the Sunnah. The people of the Sunnah were in contrast to these sects and innovations. The Salafis today are the people of the Sunnah, they are the people of the hadith. Others who say this one is a Sufi and this one is such-and-such understand that they are from the people of the Sunnah, but practically they do not represent the people of the Sunnah. The Ash'ari does not represent the people of the Sunnah, the Maturidi does not represent the people of the Sunnah in his creed. The people of the Sunnah followed the hadith, they followed the athar in creed, but these people do not follow them; they follow the methodology of the theologians in establishing creeds. The issue is not just a matter of jurisprudential branches, it is a matter of creed. So these people do not follow the methodology of the Salaf and the people of the Sunnah.
Another questioner: The other sects attribute themselves to the person Ali.
The questioner: Yes, Ash'aris, Maturidis, do not stop.
Another questioner: ... in terms of following the methodology of the Salaf, not to Zayd or to 'Amr.
The Shaykh: So I said to some of them: You attribute yourself to the Muslim Brotherhood, and the Muslim Brotherhood attributes itself toThe Shaykh : Hasan al-Banna (may Allah have mercy on him). I am now disavowing the Muslim Brotherhood; do I remain a Muslim or am I a disbeliever? He says: Against your will, despite your nose, you are a Muslim. Can you disavow the righteous Salaf? He cannot disavow them. So if he has some knowledge of jurisprudence... Yes, but if he is ignorant, he will tell you: No, I am not... I am a Muslim, a brother of the Brotherhood - also - so I disavow attributing myself to an imam of the imams of the Muslims and I remain a Muslim, but if I disavow the righteous Salaf, it means that His saying - Exalted is He - applies to me:[An-Nisa 4:115], so this is the difference between this attribution and all the attributions of this world, a very great difference! But party loyalty is what blinds the hearts and makes them deny what they must affirm, and affirm what they must deny, unfortunately! Therefore.
The questioner: These people I spoke about were asked about in "The Afghan Group," and they said: They named themselves "The Group of Muslims," and they said: The Muslims, and whoever is other than them is a disbeliever.
The Shaykh: They are not Muslims!!
The questioner: He is not a Muslim!
The Shaykh : Yes!
The questioner: Like this, meaning when he names himself a Muslim, whoever is other than him is a disbeliever.
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Another questioner: ... eternal abode or rather meaning.
The Shaykh: No, eternal abode is not a condition.
Another questioner: Eternal abode is not a condition.
The Shaykh : No.
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Another questioner: If we say... and they are excused due to their ignorance... then why... and they are excused?
The Shaykh: ... If we imagine that we are a nation or a people who are excused in the sight of Allah, they will not be eternally in the Fire, let alone if we say they are eternally in the Fire. These are two opposites that never coexist. But the truth is we do not know who the call reached and who it did not reach. So Allah - Mighty and Majestic - is the One who will take charge of their reckoning, and He is the One who will distinguish the excused from the not excused.
The questioner: The reason is that there are people there who are not excused...
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The questioner: And my da'wah, and I am...
The Shaykh: We are tolerant by relinquishing the proportion... It is perhaps very important... We relinquish the proportion of those who disavowed it... In my opinion, whoever disavowed it while knowing what he disavowed is a disbeliever. We relinquish this proportion, while others cling to persons, no matter how high their status, how elevated their knowledge, and how righteous they are; they are persons. So this one is Hanafi, so he is strict in his Hanafiism... They are not satisfied with... So when we simply relinquish it to say: Allah named us Muslims. Fine, a questioner will ask you: Are you Hanafi? ... No, can you say you are Hanafi? No, Shafi'i? He keeps listing them. So what are you? Ah, I am a Muslim. Why do you hide yourself? He is a Muslim...
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner: ... Shi'ite... and he tells you, "I am a Muslim."
Another questioner: No, no, in that case, the implication of the opposite is that I am a Muslim and you are not a Muslim. That means you are judging... That means if we call the Salafis Muslims, then the Shi'ite is not a Muslim, and every other sect is not a Muslim in your view. The Salafi is a Muslim!
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The Shaykh: ... and we gave, for example, just now, and this is naturally a more appropriate example.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Yes, yes.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: I told you just now, and this is more appropriate, this example is more appropriate.
The questioner: And originally, the people of the Sunnah means the Salaf. In the era of the Salaf, when the fitnah of the Khawarij began... then after that, there were the people of the Sunnah. The people of the Sunnah were in contrast to these sects and innovations. The Salafis today are the people of the Sunnah, they are the people of the hadith. Others who say this one is a Sufi and this one is such-and-such understand that they are from the people of the Sunnah, but practically they do not represent the people of the Sunnah. The Ash'ari does not represent the people of the Sunnah, the Maturidi does not represent the people of the Sunnah in his creed. The people of the Sunnah followed the hadith, they followed the athar in creed, but these people do not follow them; they follow the methodology of the theologians in establishing creeds. The issue is not just a matter of jurisprudential branches, it is a matter of creed. So these people do not follow the methodology of the Salaf and the people of the Sunnah.
Another questioner: The other sects attribute themselves to the person Ali.
The questioner: Yes, Ash'aris, Maturidis, do not stop.
Another questioner: ... in terms of following the methodology of the Salaf, not to Zayd or to 'Amr.
The Shaykh: So I said to some of them: You attribute yourself to the Muslim Brotherhood, and the Muslim Brotherhood attributes itself toThe Shaykh : Hasan al-Banna (may Allah have mercy on him). I am now disavowing the Muslim Brotherhood; do I remain a Muslim or am I a disbeliever? He says: Against your will, despite your nose, you are a Muslim. Can you disavow the righteous Salaf? He cannot disavow them. So if he has some knowledge of jurisprudence... Yes, but if he is ignorant, he will tell you: No, I am not... I am a Muslim, a brother of the Brotherhood - also - so I disavow attributing myself to an imam of the imams of the Muslims and I remain a Muslim, but if I disavow the righteous Salaf, it means that His saying - Exalted is He - applies to me:
And whoever opposes the Messenger after guidance has become clear to him and follows other than the way of the believers - We will give him what he has taken and drive him into Hell, and evil it is as a destination.
ومن يشاقق الرسول من بعد ما تبيَّن له الهدى ويتبع غير سبيل المؤمنين نولِّه ما تولَّى ونصله جهنَّم وساءت مصيرًاThe questioner: These people I spoke about were asked about in "The Afghan Group," and they said: They named themselves "The Group of Muslims," and they said: The Muslims, and whoever is other than them is a disbeliever.
The Shaykh: They are not Muslims!!
The questioner: He is not a Muslim!
The Shaykh : Yes!
The questioner: Like this, meaning when he names himself a Muslim, whoever is other than him is a disbeliever.
... .
Another questioner: ... eternal abode or rather meaning.
The Shaykh: No, eternal abode is not a condition.
Another questioner: Eternal abode is not a condition.
The Shaykh : No.
...
Another questioner: If we say... and they are excused due to their ignorance... then why... and they are excused?
The Shaykh: ... If we imagine that we are a nation or a people who are excused in the sight of Allah, they will not be eternally in the Fire, let alone if we say they are eternally in the Fire. These are two opposites that never coexist. But the truth is we do not know who the call reached and who it did not reach. So Allah - Mighty and Majestic - is the One who will take charge of their reckoning, and He is the One who will distinguish the excused from the not excused.
The questioner: The reason is that there are people there who are not excused...
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