What is the ruling on coupons?
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The questioner : What is the ruling on selling coupons?
The Shaykh : Cards for less than their price, what do you think about selling them for less than their price?
The questioner : Yes, meaning regarding the cause, my Shaykh, concerning the issue of less than their price?
The Shaykh : Riba.
The questioner : Okay; if he sells them at their price?
The Shaykh : There is no objection.
Another questioner : Okay, my Shaykh, if the intention, may Allah preserve you, is from the issue of...
Another questioner: Peace be upon you.
Another questioner : And upon you be peace, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.
The issue is a regulatory process regarding the state's matter; such that if it knew, it would not allow, for example.
The Shaykh : You are making an observation.
Another questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : On the first answer? Or the second?
Another questioner : On the second.
Another questioner : On the second.
The Shaykh : I do not think so.
Another questioner : Why?
The Shaykh : Because he is making a correction, and there is no room for correction in the second.
The questioner : Excuse me, Shaykh, yes, on the first, I mean the first, which is the non-...
The Shaykh : It is not you, my brother, may Allah guide you. I answered with two answers; I asked first and answered you that it is not permissible, then I asked about the second price without addition, but at the same price; so what did I answer you?
The questioner : With permissibility.
The Shaykh : Okay; now, which of the two answers is his comment on?
Another questioner : The permissibility, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh : About the permissibility?
Another questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Meaning, you want to say it is not permissible?
Another questioner : I want to clarify this from you, yes, yes, yes.
The Shaykh : Meaning, you may also see that it is not permissible?
Another questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay; please, the important thing now is that our brother Abu Abd al-Rahman agreed with me on the first aspect, so we are at rest, but he has a viewpoint on the other aspect; he may see that it is attached to the first, let us listen to him.
Pay attention, I am hesitant, I tell you, you may see, and I say about myself: I may see; because this "may" is known for another, and you may not see; therefore, it does not concern you.
Another questioner: Yes ... .
The Shaykh: All right.
Another questioner : May Allah preserve you, my Shaykh, we have learned much from you.
The Shaykh : Okay; let me put you at ease.
Another questioner : May Allah put your mind at ease...
The Shaykh : What is your opinion about this card, you gave it to me.
Another questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : For free?
Another questioner : It is permissible.
The Shaykh : Permissible? But the money is not permissible?
Another questioner : It is not permissible.
The Shaykh : It is not permissible, bring it so we can see.
Another questioner : Because, meaning, we have learned from you, my Shaykh, may Allah preserve you, the issue of the one in authority in this matter; that he allows or does not allow?
The Shaykh: Yes.
Another questioner : So the issue is a regulatory process for people's needs regarding their estimation.
The Shaykh : Finish, put your mind at ease that giving is not permissible, if you want to hold onto the cause, do not distinguish between the two matters.
Another questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Are we going?
Another questioner : Okay.
The Shaykh: All right.
Another questioner : But I may have a condition, if you please.
The Shaykh : Bring it so we can see, I am doing this to save you the trip, meaning.
Another questioner : May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : Bring it so we can see.
Another questioner : If it is, yes, I am with you, it will be an argument against me!!
Another questioner : ... .
Another questioner : No, we will mention it of course, we want the benefit.
In my estimation, meaning, I consult you in the matter if I feel that you are in need of this thing and their estimation is not correct, so I give it to you.
The Shaykh : Their estimation is not correct?
Another questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay; this means it justifies violating the system? The estimation returns to disrupting the system.
Another questioner : Yes, so we withdraw it, my Shaykh, if it is.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : My Shaykh, may Allah preserve you.
The Shaykh : Now we have reached the point that as long as the one in authority wanted to solve a problem by that, it is not permissible to sell at the price of the card, nor to give as a gift. Good, we stand with you at this point, so we say: the matter is such if what happens does not happen with the opinion of the one who established the system, and I end here.
Another questioner : In my opinion, my Shaykh. I did not hear the phrase; the last phrase.
The Shaykh : I say: if what happens of giving and buying at the same price, when it happens; happens without the knowledge and permission of the one in authority.
Another questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : But if the one in authority who established this system knows that this is dealt with in these two ways; I think then the matter becomes permissible, otherwise it is not permissible.
Another questioner : May Allah reward you with good, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : What is your opinion?
Another questioner : A good thing, may Allah reward you with good, I even learned this speech from you, the principle of the...
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you with good.
Another questioner : It is good, okay.
The Shaykh: All right.
Another questioner : Now my question, my Shaykh: if, hypothetically, we returned to the one in authority, they said: we allow, for example, the thing, and they did not allow another thing, meaning, for example, they allowed the gift.
The Shaykh : The answer is known.
Another questioner : It is known.
The Shaykh : Of course, what they allow is permissible, and what they do not, is not.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : And you, okay.
The questioner : My Shaykh, may Allah bless you.
The Shaykh : We listen to al-Khatib.
The questioner : May Allah preserve you and bless you, my Shaykh. My Shaykh, if you allow, I want to return to the original issue.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : Which is that he sells for less than the price.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : The non-permissibility of this is from which door, my Shaykh?
The Shaykh : From the door of buying the lira or the dinar for ninety qirsh; riba, open riba, and the matter is clear, I do not know what the motive for the question is?
The questioner : May Allah bless you; meaning, after this clarification, meaning, by mentioning the dinar, it became clear, if Allah wills.
Another questioner : And does selling what one does not own also apply to it?
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : So now we wish to inquire from the ones in authority in one way or another whether they know? And after they know; do they allow?
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : So if they do not allow, it remains that it is not permissible.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : Yes, and regarding the issue of the gift, I think, my Shaykh, this is as if, and Allah knows best.
The Shaykh : It is self-evident.
The questioner : It is self-evident that they will allow.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : Yes, may Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : Cards for less than their price, what do you think about selling them for less than their price?
The questioner : Yes, meaning regarding the cause, my Shaykh, concerning the issue of less than their price?
The Shaykh : Riba.
The questioner : Okay; if he sells them at their price?
The Shaykh : There is no objection.
Another questioner : Okay, my Shaykh, if the intention, may Allah preserve you, is from the issue of...
Another questioner: Peace be upon you.
Another questioner : And upon you be peace, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.
The issue is a regulatory process regarding the state's matter; such that if it knew, it would not allow, for example.
The Shaykh : You are making an observation.
Another questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : On the first answer? Or the second?
Another questioner : On the second.
Another questioner : On the second.
The Shaykh : I do not think so.
Another questioner : Why?
The Shaykh : Because he is making a correction, and there is no room for correction in the second.
The questioner : Excuse me, Shaykh, yes, on the first, I mean the first, which is the non-...
The Shaykh : It is not you, my brother, may Allah guide you. I answered with two answers; I asked first and answered you that it is not permissible, then I asked about the second price without addition, but at the same price; so what did I answer you?
The questioner : With permissibility.
The Shaykh : Okay; now, which of the two answers is his comment on?
Another questioner : The permissibility, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh : About the permissibility?
Another questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Meaning, you want to say it is not permissible?
Another questioner : I want to clarify this from you, yes, yes, yes.
The Shaykh : Meaning, you may also see that it is not permissible?
Another questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay; please, the important thing now is that our brother Abu Abd al-Rahman agreed with me on the first aspect, so we are at rest, but he has a viewpoint on the other aspect; he may see that it is attached to the first, let us listen to him.
Pay attention, I am hesitant, I tell you, you may see, and I say about myself: I may see; because this "may" is known for another, and you may not see; therefore, it does not concern you.
Another questioner: Yes ... .
The Shaykh: All right.
Another questioner : May Allah preserve you, my Shaykh, we have learned much from you.
The Shaykh : Okay; let me put you at ease.
Another questioner : May Allah put your mind at ease...
The Shaykh : What is your opinion about this card, you gave it to me.
Another questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : For free?
Another questioner : It is permissible.
The Shaykh : Permissible? But the money is not permissible?
Another questioner : It is not permissible.
The Shaykh : It is not permissible, bring it so we can see.
Another questioner : Because, meaning, we have learned from you, my Shaykh, may Allah preserve you, the issue of the one in authority in this matter; that he allows or does not allow?
The Shaykh: Yes.
Another questioner : So the issue is a regulatory process for people's needs regarding their estimation.
The Shaykh : Finish, put your mind at ease that giving is not permissible, if you want to hold onto the cause, do not distinguish between the two matters.
Another questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Are we going?
Another questioner : Okay.
The Shaykh: All right.
Another questioner : But I may have a condition, if you please.
The Shaykh : Bring it so we can see, I am doing this to save you the trip, meaning.
Another questioner : May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : Bring it so we can see.
Another questioner : If it is, yes, I am with you, it will be an argument against me!!
Another questioner : ... .
Another questioner : No, we will mention it of course, we want the benefit.
In my estimation, meaning, I consult you in the matter if I feel that you are in need of this thing and their estimation is not correct, so I give it to you.
The Shaykh : Their estimation is not correct?
Another questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay; this means it justifies violating the system? The estimation returns to disrupting the system.
Another questioner : Yes, so we withdraw it, my Shaykh, if it is.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : My Shaykh, may Allah preserve you.
The Shaykh : Now we have reached the point that as long as the one in authority wanted to solve a problem by that, it is not permissible to sell at the price of the card, nor to give as a gift. Good, we stand with you at this point, so we say: the matter is such if what happens does not happen with the opinion of the one who established the system, and I end here.
Another questioner : In my opinion, my Shaykh. I did not hear the phrase; the last phrase.
The Shaykh : I say: if what happens of giving and buying at the same price, when it happens; happens without the knowledge and permission of the one in authority.
Another questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : But if the one in authority who established this system knows that this is dealt with in these two ways; I think then the matter becomes permissible, otherwise it is not permissible.
Another questioner : May Allah reward you with good, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : What is your opinion?
Another questioner : A good thing, may Allah reward you with good, I even learned this speech from you, the principle of the...
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you with good.
Another questioner : It is good, okay.
The Shaykh: All right.
Another questioner : Now my question, my Shaykh: if, hypothetically, we returned to the one in authority, they said: we allow, for example, the thing, and they did not allow another thing, meaning, for example, they allowed the gift.
The Shaykh : The answer is known.
Another questioner : It is known.
The Shaykh : Of course, what they allow is permissible, and what they do not, is not.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : And you, okay.
The questioner : My Shaykh, may Allah bless you.
The Shaykh : We listen to al-Khatib.
The questioner : May Allah preserve you and bless you, my Shaykh. My Shaykh, if you allow, I want to return to the original issue.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : Which is that he sells for less than the price.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : The non-permissibility of this is from which door, my Shaykh?
The Shaykh : From the door of buying the lira or the dinar for ninety qirsh; riba, open riba, and the matter is clear, I do not know what the motive for the question is?
The questioner : May Allah bless you; meaning, after this clarification, meaning, by mentioning the dinar, it became clear, if Allah wills.
Another questioner : And does selling what one does not own also apply to it?
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : So now we wish to inquire from the ones in authority in one way or another whether they know? And after they know; do they allow?
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : So if they do not allow, it remains that it is not permissible.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : Yes, and regarding the issue of the gift, I think, my Shaykh, this is as if, and Allah knows best.
The Shaykh : It is self-evident.
The questioner : It is self-evident that they will allow.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : Yes, may Allah reward you with good.
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