The meaning of his saying (peace and blessings be upon him): (What is upon me if I did it, and Allah knows that I am averse to it)?

The Shaykh : ... an act ... disbelief that takes its doer out of the religion, even though his creed is sound.

The questioner : I want to ask you a question; what is the evidence for ... (peace and blessings be upon him) ... in his saying: ?

The Shaykh : What is the evidence for his saying? It means that this is an act that is not permissible in the Shari'ah, so I do not do it.

The questioner : I mean, did he not mean that this is an outward act that has no connection to the creed, or that the creed follows it ...?

The Shaykh : My brother, no ... we are saying: an outward act, you understood, meaning there is nothing on him?

The questioner : Oh?

The Shaykh : You understood when we say: this is outward disbelief or practical disbelief, you understood that may Allah bless you and increase you in it?! Or did you understand that this is a major sin but it does not ... ... in reality?

The questioner : I want to ask why ... .

The Shaykh : ... .

The questioner : I did not understand it, I understood that ... .

The Shaykh : We are asking you: did you understand this? Tell me yes or no, or did you not understand, and so on. Why do you want me to ask you? I am asking you, my brother. When we divide disbelief into two types: creedal disbelief and practical disbelief, we say: creedal disbelief is the disbelief that takes one out of the religion, it is the one where if one dies, he is not buried in the Muslim cemeteries. As for practical disbelief, it is committing a major sin, but it does not take one out of the religion. Touching the idols, even if it is without the heart, means this is a sin. Would you suppose the Messenger does it? No, he does not do it, even if it pleased these disbelievers. So it is not necessary for this to be creedal disbelief; it is sufficient that it is practical disbelief; that is: it is sufficient that it is a sin. The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) elevates himself above that.
So when we say: this is creedal disbelief, we do not want to say: may Allah bless the one who does it; no, it is feared that he is truly a disbeliever, an apostate from his religion.

Another questioner : Practical disbelief.

The Shaykh : Yes?

Another questioner : This is practical disbelief.

The Shaykh : No, it is feared ... .

Another questioner : It contains creedal disbelief and practical disbelief.

The Shaykh : ... so this is practical disbelief, and it is feared that if he persists in it, he will die upon creedal disbelief. So I do not know, if it is the story of Hatib, even ... and I understood from you that you have doubts regarding ... 'Umar, and perhaps something else. Until now, I believe it is clear that the saying of the Messenger (peace be upon him): what is it?

Another questioner : .

The Shaykh, it does not mean .
This text is in the Noble Qur'an. So Hatib did not commit any shirk (associating partners with Allah) that contradicts his tawhid (the oneness of Allah) at all. So what did he do? He committed a disobedience, , he committed a disobedience, he did what is less than shirk. Therefore, he said to them: .