Ibn Hajar says: Regarding al-Bukhari, "I have come to know through induction that he uses 'I was told' in mawquf reports and in those whose chains have a defect." Is there a difference between "he said" and "he said to me"?

The questioner : I have come to know through induction that there is a defect in its chain, or that he uses it in al-Bukhari in mawquf reports, like "he said," which I discussed in the etiquette of weddings.

The Shaykh : Does he use it in mawquf reports?

The questioner : Yes, he said through induction that he knows he uses it in mawquf reports or in those whose chains have a defect.

The Shaykh : Yes.

The questioner : And in another place, he said it is mostly in mawquf reports, and this is close to the question about "he said."
The student: May Allah bless you and lengthen your life.

The Shaykh : ... May Allah preserve you. Remind me, like the hadith of musical instruments, where he said "he said." What is the defect in it?

The questioner : There is no defect.

The Shaykh : This contradicts the statement.

The questioner : No, my intention is that the Shaykh said "he said to me." He is speaking about "he said to me," and I am asking about "he said." Is there a difference, not only in the hadith of Mu'adh in al-Bukhari?

The Shaykh : What did we tell you about your saying "he said"? You are quoting Ibn Hajar, who says: If al-Bukhari says "he said"

The questioner : No, "he said to me."

The Shaykh : If he says "he said to me"

The questioner : "He said to me"

The Shaykh : There will be a defect.

The questioner : No, he says: "Al-Bukhari: I have come to know through induction that he uses 'I was told' in mawquf reports and in those whose chains have a defect". That is what he said.

The Shaykh : Yes, and if he says it without "to me"?

The questioner : Here I am asking you, Shaykh, is there a difference?

The Shaykh : No, there is no difference.

The questioner : Exactly like "it was narrated to me" in every respect?

The Shaykh : I mentioned that there is no difference in response to ... There is no difference between "he said" and "he said to me" if the one attributed the statement to is one of his Shaykhs, like Hisham ibn 'Umar.

The questioner : O our Shaykh, a special supplication. I intend to perform 'Umrah, and they refused to issue a visa. May Allah answer your call, O Shaykh. Make a special supplication for us.

The Shaykh : If Allah wills, our Lord will facilitate your 'Umrah, and you should also make a supplication for me in my 'Umrah.

The questioner : If Allah wills, may Allah honor you.
The student: ... What Allah willed, Blessed and Exalted is He ...

The Shaykh : Praise be to Allah ...
The student: Perhaps more than the fifth.

The Shaykh : Yes, indeed
The student: Praise be to Allah.

The Shaykh : On this occasion, do you have our brother Abu Yunus with you?
The student: Yes.

The Shaykh : Do you know him?
The student: Yes.

The Shaykh : I want to send him some copies in the field. Will you take them with you?
The student: ...

The Shaykh : No, but ...