When a person commits a forbidden act while approving of it; does he become a disbeliever or not?
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The questioner : ... ... When the person who commits a forbidden act does not approve of it ... .
The Shaykh : Does he approve of it as a matter of belief?
The questioner : Yes, yes, as a matter of belief, meaning - for example - let us take - for example - ... a drinker of intoxicants, he says to you: My brother, national intoxicants are a good thing, one drinks them, the taste is delicious and good, it is true it is forbidden by the Shari'ah but it is good, the taste is delicious ... and as for pork - for example - he says to you that, by Allah, it is good and fine, and it has been medically proven that it is not harmful, this is the talk, but he admits or acknowledges that it is forbidden in the Shari'ah, but he says to you that it is good.
The Shaykh : Admits, meaning he is a believer and not denying?
The questioner : He approves of the forbidden act he commits.
The Shaykh : What about the one who commits unlawful sexual intercourse?
The questioner : He approves of it in his time, but if he commits unlawful sexual intercourse he says to you: By Allah - my brother - ... he says to you that he is a believer, that there is harm in it, there is such and such, and so on, but here, meaning, if he commits unlawful sexual intercourse and approves of unlawful sexual intercourse?
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Meaning, from the natural aspect, this one who commits unlawful sexual intercourse and this one ... .
The questioner : He takes pleasure in it, but ... .
The Shaykh : That is it...
The questioner : He approves of it in his view, meaning, he says to you: If.
The Shaykh : My brother, approval, if it is natural ... with something ... of the heart.
The questioner : No, I say: of the heart.
The Shaykh : Approval of the heart, if it entails ... the Shari'ah ruling, then that is apostasy, but natural approval ... .
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Okay, he approves of that ... and the open sinner does not ... likewise he approves; this is not ... but if this is combined with all of that, now I will tell you: what is the difference between the loss of reason ... and so on? This is disbelief, meaning it must be ... negatively or positively.
The questioner : Meaning, approval of belief is considered disbelief ... last Friday.
The Shaykh : What do you mean ...? The rulings you know, the noble verse:[An-Nisa 4:94], has this ruling been abrogated in this society ...?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Why?
The questioner : Verbal approval of the haram ... .
The Shaykh : This contradicts the aspect; because, do you not notice with me, there is a difference between the individual and the group?
The questioner : Therefore, meaning, we have the question ... I have a difficulty.
The Shaykh : When you direct it, I may answer it.
The questioner : Therefore ... .
The Shaykh : ... because the professor, when he was here, asked him, wasn't it? So I answered him so that he would finish ... .
The questioner : Restricting the sects of apostates in this society; do you have disbelief?
The Shaykh : Restricting what?
The questioner : The sects of apostates ... .
The Shaykh : It may be that I cannot give you an answer according to my principle; because my principle is built on knowledge of the disbelief of the heart, which I may not know ... so if ... these people committed disbelief of the heart, I testify with you that these are apostates, but I may not know, and I ... regarding the Ba'athists we have ... I hear some professors ... I rule on the Ba'athists that they are disbelieving apostates as a group, as a body, but I do not rule on every individual among them that they are disbelieving apostates, I have a very big difference between the absolute ruling and the restricted ruling for the individual.
And our previous topic, and I think the subsequent one, is not closely related to the general absolute rulings, but to the specific restricted rulings; because I - for example - based on what we agreed upon previously ... that it is necessary that we address them as apparent Muslims, meaning we may call them that, and you perform the duty of explaining Islam to them and conveying the rulings of Islam to them, and so on, and we know and you know that there are individuals, of course, who are disbelieving apostates, especially those among them who are educated in a foreign culture, but[Al-Muddaththir 74:38]; so just as there are some of these, there are some of those ... Muslims, so when an individual from this general society comes to you and says to you: Peace be upon you; what should your position be? You must not apply the general ruling; so ... you return the greeting.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Okay, if you returned the greeting, and the imam prayed, do you want to pray with him, and so you proceed with him ... is there a difficulty in this?
The questioner : There is no problem.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : There is a point.
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
The Shaykh : Does he approve of it as a matter of belief?
The questioner : Yes, yes, as a matter of belief, meaning - for example - let us take - for example - ... a drinker of intoxicants, he says to you: My brother, national intoxicants are a good thing, one drinks them, the taste is delicious and good, it is true it is forbidden by the Shari'ah but it is good, the taste is delicious ... and as for pork - for example - he says to you that, by Allah, it is good and fine, and it has been medically proven that it is not harmful, this is the talk, but he admits or acknowledges that it is forbidden in the Shari'ah, but he says to you that it is good.
The Shaykh : Admits, meaning he is a believer and not denying?
The questioner : He approves of the forbidden act he commits.
The Shaykh : What about the one who commits unlawful sexual intercourse?
The questioner : He approves of it in his time, but if he commits unlawful sexual intercourse he says to you: By Allah - my brother - ... he says to you that he is a believer, that there is harm in it, there is such and such, and so on, but here, meaning, if he commits unlawful sexual intercourse and approves of unlawful sexual intercourse?
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Meaning, from the natural aspect, this one who commits unlawful sexual intercourse and this one ... .
The questioner : He takes pleasure in it, but ... .
The Shaykh : That is it...
The questioner : He approves of it in his view, meaning, he says to you: If.
The Shaykh : My brother, approval, if it is natural ... with something ... of the heart.
The questioner : No, I say: of the heart.
The Shaykh : Approval of the heart, if it entails ... the Shari'ah ruling, then that is apostasy, but natural approval ... .
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Okay, he approves of that ... and the open sinner does not ... likewise he approves; this is not ... but if this is combined with all of that, now I will tell you: what is the difference between the loss of reason ... and so on? This is disbelief, meaning it must be ... negatively or positively.
The questioner : Meaning, approval of belief is considered disbelief ... last Friday.
The Shaykh : What do you mean ...? The rulings you know, the noble verse:
do not say to one who gives you [a greeting of] peace "You are not a believer,"
وَلَا تَقُولُوا لِمَنْ أَلْقَى إِلَيْكُمُ السَّلَامَ لَسْتَ مُؤْمِنًاThe questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Why?
The questioner : Verbal approval of the haram ... .
The Shaykh : This contradicts the aspect; because, do you not notice with me, there is a difference between the individual and the group?
The questioner : Therefore, meaning, we have the question ... I have a difficulty.
The Shaykh : When you direct it, I may answer it.
The questioner : Therefore ... .
The Shaykh : ... because the professor, when he was here, asked him, wasn't it? So I answered him so that he would finish ... .
The questioner : Restricting the sects of apostates in this society; do you have disbelief?
The Shaykh : Restricting what?
The questioner : The sects of apostates ... .
The Shaykh : It may be that I cannot give you an answer according to my principle; because my principle is built on knowledge of the disbelief of the heart, which I may not know ... so if ... these people committed disbelief of the heart, I testify with you that these are apostates, but I may not know, and I ... regarding the Ba'athists we have ... I hear some professors ... I rule on the Ba'athists that they are disbelieving apostates as a group, as a body, but I do not rule on every individual among them that they are disbelieving apostates, I have a very big difference between the absolute ruling and the restricted ruling for the individual.
And our previous topic, and I think the subsequent one, is not closely related to the general absolute rulings, but to the specific restricted rulings; because I - for example - based on what we agreed upon previously ... that it is necessary that we address them as apparent Muslims, meaning we may call them that, and you perform the duty of explaining Islam to them and conveying the rulings of Islam to them, and so on, and we know and you know that there are individuals, of course, who are disbelieving apostates, especially those among them who are educated in a foreign culture, but
Every soul, for what it has earned, will be retained
كُلُّ نَفْسٍ بِمَا كَسَبَتْ رَهِينَةٌThe questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Okay, if you returned the greeting, and the imam prayed, do you want to pray with him, and so you proceed with him ... is there a difficulty in this?
The questioner : There is no problem.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : There is a point.
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
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