What is the ruling on working with the Islamic groups active throughout the length and breadth of the Islamic ummah (the Muslim community)?

The Shaykh: Yes, what do you have?

The questioner: Abu Abdullah has some questions he wrote down.
The student: No problem, because the space is tight.

The questioner: Perhaps the questions he is going to ask areThe Shaykh : But the truth is, it is a set of questions. It has been about... The first question: The Shaykh's opinion on Islamic groups.

The Shaykh: Clarify the Shaykh's opinion on the Islamic group. Do you mean, are they Muslims or disbelievers? You will say no. So what is the question? Clarify it.

The questioner: Working with the Islamic groups active throughout the length and breadth of the Islamic ummah (the Muslim community)?

The Shaykh: Yes, yes. This Islamic group, are they Islamic parties or not Islamic?

The questioner: The Muslim Brotherhood and al-Tahrir.

The Shaykh: Answer the question, may Allah reward you.

The questioner: Excuse me, O Shaykh.

The Shaykh: Do not name anyone or any groups. Are they parties? No problem, when it is formed against us, do not advise. I am careful. I asked you what you mean by this question: Are they disbelievers? I told you, do not say "I do not want to ask if they are disbelievers or Muslims?" I asked you a second question: Are these groups you are asking about Islamic parties? The answer was like the Muslim Brotherhood. I did not ask you, for example, are they Islamic parties?

The questioner: Yes, they are Islamic parties.

The Shaykh : Yes?

The questioner: Yes.

The Shaykh: May Allah reward you. Now I can answer with complete frankness: there is no partisanship in Islam.

The questioner: How is it possible to cooperate with these groups?

The Shaykh: Cooperation, as Allah the Exalted said...

The questioner: A phone call from America, O Shaykh.

The Shaykh: Yes. Yes, you are from here, yes.

The questioner: Peace be upon you, hello.

The Shaykh : And upon you be peace, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.

The questioner : How is your health, Shaykh?

The Shaykh: Welcome, welcome, Murad.

The questioner: May Allah welcome you, my dear brother. I am speaking from America.

The Shaykh: Yes.

The questioner: I am the one who has the question. It is a very important fatwa (a scholarly legal ruling) regarding a Muslim sister we have in America.

The Shaykh: Good, what is it?

The questioner: Is it possible? I would like to record, if you allow me to record the tape.

The Shaykh: I allow you, perhaps after I hear your question before you record it.

The questioner: Okay, if Allah wills.

The Shaykh : What is your question?

The questioner: Okay, the question, O honorableThe Shaykh : There is an American Muslim woman, okay.

The Shaykh: Okay, if Allah wills.

The questioner: Yes, she is married to a man of Saudi origin for eight years. She was divorced the first time and returned to him, okay.

The Shaykh: Perhaps okay.

The questioner: Okay, and she was divorced the second time under one of the conditions that she would not marry before completing a year from the divorce. Then she returned to her husband a few days before the year ended, or as she said, in her belief that the year of the condition had ended. Then when she returned to Saudi Arabia to her husband, she told him, "I must, I must have a second marriage contract performed on me." So one of the young men brought a Shaykh who would contract the marriage on her, and he said, "I am your wali (guardian), and he is your husband," and he brought one witness. Do you see how it was?

The Shaykh: Yes, yes, I see.

The questioner: Yes.

The Shaykh: I am hearing, I am hearing.

The questioner: Yes, so he performed a play on her that thisThe Shaykh : would contract the marriage on her, and I am your wali (guardian), and this is your husband, and this is a witness from the witnesses. Do you see how it was?

The Shaykh : Yes.

The questioner: Then, yes.

The Shaykh: Yes, yes, after.

The questioner: And then they did not put it on paper, they did not tell her about... So she felt that there was a play, a game they were playing on her. And then he started to harm her a lot and imprisoned her in his house, meaning for a period. Then she returned to America and demanded divorce, and so on, once saying, "I do not want to be married to you." So he threatened her several times, meaning he said, "I do not want to let her go." And he said to me, "I swear before you, when I came here to America, he swore an oath that he would humiliate her, and if she returns to Saudi Arabia, he will forbid her return to America." She has two children: a daughter who is seven years old and a son who is two years old. Do you see how it is? And he is a man, meaning every time she returns to him, it is under the condition that he is religiously committed, meaning he prays, fasts, and fears Allah. And when she returns to Saudi Arabia, she discovers that he drinks intoxicants, commits zina (unlawful sexual intercourse), commits fornication, and deals in many things. Do you see how it is? And she is a virtuous Muslim woman, meaning she fears Allah, is committed, wears the hijab (the covering prescribed for women), and means everything. Our question is from here, from America, I am speaking, that she is demanding divorce. And here is Masjid al-Sabr (the Mosque of Patience), if it is Masjid al-Sabr in Portland. Do you hear about Masjid al-Sabr, O Shaykh?

The Shaykh: No.

The questioner: Yes, at Masjid al-Sabr here, they told me to callThe Shaykh : Nasr al-Din al-Albani and explain this case to him. They, meaning, do not know how to handle the khul' (divorce at the wife's request for compensation). The woman wants the khul' (divorce at the wife's request for compensation), she does.

The Shaykh: My brother, listen to me.

The questioner: Yes.

The Shaykh: This issue is a thorny one, and this is not resolved by a scholar's fatwa (a scholarly legal ruling), but rather this needs a Shari'ah (Islamic sacred law) court. And since her husband is of Saudi nationality.

The questioner: Can I record?

The Shaykh: Yes.

The questioner: Can I record the call?

The Shaykh: Yes, record.

The questioner: Yes.

The Shaykh: I say this issue, according to what I learned just now, is a thorny issue and has many branches, yes.

The questioner: There is a Shaykh, Mahmoud Murad, who called you from Canada. Do you hearThe Shaykh : Mahmoud Murad.

The Shaykh: My brother, are you recording my answer or not?

The questioner: I am recording your answer, please proceed.

The Shaykh: Why did you go back?

The questioner: I am sorry, sir, forgive me, no problem.

The Shaykh: I say this issue is a thorny one and has many branches and subdivisions, and it cannot be resolved first by a scholar's fatwa (a scholarly legal ruling), especially if this mufti (a scholar who issues fatwas) is far from the Saudi man and the American wife. Therefore, I advise that the case be raised, with the details you mentioned, to the Saudi Shari'ah (Islamic sacred law) court. And with its authority, it is able to bring the Saudi husband who pretends to his Islam and worship in America, and if he returns to his Muslim country, there he drinks intoxicants and commits zina (unlawful sexual intercourse), as you said. So raise the case to the Saudi Shari'ah (Islamic sacred law) court, and the solution will come to you from there officially, so that she can rely on the judgment and fatwa (a scholarly legal ruling) issued by them. And peace be upon you. Please, my brother.
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The questioner: A phone call from America, O Shaykh.

The Shaykh: Yes. Yes, you are from here, may Allah guide you, yes.

The questioner: Peace be upon you, hello.

The Shaykh : And upon you be peace, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.

The questioner : How is your health, Shaykh?

The Shaykh: Welcome, welcome, Murad.

The questioner: May Allah welcome you, my dear brother. I am speaking from America.

The Shaykh: Yes.

The questioner: I am the one who has the question. It is a very important fatwa (a scholarly legal ruling) regarding a Muslim sister we have in America.

The Shaykh: Good, what is it?

The questioner: Is it possible? I would like to record, if you allow me to record the tape.

The Shaykh: I allow you, perhaps after I hear your question before you record it.

The questioner: Okay, if Allah wills.

The Shaykh : What is your question?

The questioner: Okay, the question, O honorableThe Shaykh : There is an American Muslim woman, okay.

The Shaykh: Okay, if Allah wills.

The questioner: Yes, she is married to a man of Saudi origin for eight years. She was divorced the first time and returned to him, okay.

The Shaykh: Perhaps okay.

The questioner: Okay, and she was divorced the second time under one of the conditions that she would not marry before completing a year from the divorce. Then she returned to her husband a few days before the year ended, or as she said, in her belief that the year of the condition had ended. Then when she returned to Saudi Arabia to her husband, she told him, "I must, I must have a second marriage contract performed on me." So one of the young men brought a Shaykh who would contract the marriage on her, and he said, "I am your wali (guardian), and he is your husband," and he brought one witness. Do you see how it was?

The Shaykh: Yes, yes, I see.

The questioner: Yes.

The Shaykh: I am hearing, I am hearing.

The questioner: Yes, so he performed a play on her that thisThe Shaykh : would contract the marriage on her, and I am your wali (guardian), and this is your husband, and this is a witness from the witnesses. Do you see how it was?

The Shaykh : Yes.

The questioner: Then, yes.

The Shaykh: Yes, yes, after.

The questioner: And then they did not put it on paper, they did not tell her about... So she felt that there was a play, a game they were playing on her. And then he started to harm her a lot and imprisoned her in his house, meaning for a period. Then she returned to America and demanded divorce, and so on, once saying, "I do not want to be married to you." So he threatened her several times, meaning he said, "I do not want to let her go." And he said to me, "I swear before you, when I came here to America, he swore an oath that he would humiliate her, and if she returns to Saudi Arabia, he will forbid her return to America." She has two children: a daughter who is seven years old and a son who is two years old. Do you see how it is? And he is a man, meaning every time she returns to him, it is under the condition that he is religiously committed, meaning he prays, fasts, and fears Allah. And when she returns to Saudi Arabia, she discovers that he drinks intoxicants, commits zina (unlawful sexual intercourse), commits fornication, and deals in many things. Do you see how it is? And she is a virtuous Muslim woman, meaning she fears Allah, is committed, wears the hijab (the covering prescribed for women), and means everything. Our question is from here, from America, I am speaking, that she is demanding divorce. And here is Masjid al-Sabr (the Mosque of Patience), if it is Masjid al-Sabr in Portland. Do you hear about Masjid al-Sabr, O Shaykh?

The Shaykh: No.

The questioner : Yes, in the Mosque of Patience, they told me to callThe Shaykh : Nasir al-Din al-Albani and explain this case to him. They, I mean, they don't know how to handle the khul' (divorce at the wife's request for compensation) matter. The woman wants the khul'.

The Shaykh : My brother, listen to me.

The questioner: Yes.

The Shaykh : This issue is a thorny one, and it is not resolved by a scholar's fatwa (a scholarly legal ruling); rather, it requires a Shari'ah court. And since her husband is of Saudi nationality,

The questioner : May I record?

The Shaykh: Yes.

The questioner : May I record the call?

The Shaykh : Yes, record it.

The questioner: Yes.

The Shaykh : I say that this issue, as I understood it just now, is a thorny one with many branches. Yes.

The questioner : Shaykh Mahmud Murad called you from Canada. Do you hearThe Shaykh : Mahmud Murad?

The Shaykh : My brother, are you recording my answer or not?

The questioner : I am recording your answer. Please, go ahead.

The Shaykh : What is wrong? You have gone back?

The questioner : I am sorry, sir. Forgive me, please.

The Shaykh : I say that this issue is a thorny one with many branches and subdivisions. It cannot be resolved, first of all, by a scholar's fatwa, especially if that mufti (a scholar who issues fatwas) is far from the Saudi husband and the American wife. Therefore, I advise that you submit the case, with the details you mentioned, to the Saudi Shari'ah court. With its authority, it can summon the Saudi husband who pretends to his Islam and worship in America. If he returns to his Muslim country, where, as you say, he is a drunkard and a fornicator, then submit the case to the Saudi Shari'ah court. The solution will come to you from there officially, so that she can rely on the judgment and fatwa issued by them. And peace be upon you. Please, my brother.