What is the reason for the weakness of the mursal hadith?
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The questioner : A final question: Is the one you spoke about on the first Friday the same one who spoke?
The Shaykh : Then he clarified that there is no evidence for this distinction.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : And the final conclusion is that one does not argue with the mursal hadith of a Tabi'i, because the intermediary between him and the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) is unknown.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Even if he were a great Tabi'i, in reality, this is a very important athar regarding this topic. Imam Ahmad narrated it with his authentic chain from Ayyub, who said: "A man would narrate a hadith to Muhammad ibn Sirin"—Muhammad ibn Sirin is a Tabi'i—and he would say: "I do not accuse you, nor do I accuse that man, meaning the man who was one of the Companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), but I accuse the one between you two."
The questioner : Allah is beautiful, meaning, my Shaykh, a practical example.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : To reject the hadith, the mursal hadith.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : My Shaykh, by the way, yesterday I was listening to the complete tape, al-Muhadhdhab, which we played for you, tape 15. And the lesson we had last week was hadith or lesson 16. Our brother Abu al-Harith, may Allah reward him with good, is quoting from the notes on Ibn al-Salah. He mentions that Imam al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar has 12 statements regarding the ruling on the mursal hadith. He says that all these 12 statements are refuted, meaning they argue with methods and so on. He says that only one statement is valid, which is the non-acceptance of the mursal hadith in principle due to the ignorance of this intermediary. He says that this great Tabi'i, on the basis that he would have met more of the Companions of the Messenger of Allah, says: "We do not know that he narrated in the same way from..."
The Shaykh : A Tabi'i like him or smaller than him.
The questioner : And this Tabi'i would be weak.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : Meaning, yesterday the reality of the entire topic became clear. This, my Shaykh, where you are honored by Allah... is the athar good?
The Shaykh : Imam Ahmad in al-'Ilal.
The questioner : It is available, Shaykh, on the page.
The Shaykh : Yes, exactly. Fifty-five, part one.
The Shaykh : Then he clarified that there is no evidence for this distinction.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : And the final conclusion is that one does not argue with the mursal hadith of a Tabi'i, because the intermediary between him and the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) is unknown.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Even if he were a great Tabi'i, in reality, this is a very important athar regarding this topic. Imam Ahmad narrated it with his authentic chain from Ayyub, who said: "A man would narrate a hadith to Muhammad ibn Sirin"—Muhammad ibn Sirin is a Tabi'i—and he would say: "I do not accuse you, nor do I accuse that man, meaning the man who was one of the Companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), but I accuse the one between you two."
The questioner : Allah is beautiful, meaning, my Shaykh, a practical example.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : To reject the hadith, the mursal hadith.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : My Shaykh, by the way, yesterday I was listening to the complete tape, al-Muhadhdhab, which we played for you, tape 15. And the lesson we had last week was hadith or lesson 16. Our brother Abu al-Harith, may Allah reward him with good, is quoting from the notes on Ibn al-Salah. He mentions that Imam al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar has 12 statements regarding the ruling on the mursal hadith. He says that all these 12 statements are refuted, meaning they argue with methods and so on. He says that only one statement is valid, which is the non-acceptance of the mursal hadith in principle due to the ignorance of this intermediary. He says that this great Tabi'i, on the basis that he would have met more of the Companions of the Messenger of Allah, says: "We do not know that he narrated in the same way from..."
The Shaykh : A Tabi'i like him or smaller than him.
The questioner : And this Tabi'i would be weak.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : Meaning, yesterday the reality of the entire topic became clear. This, my Shaykh, where you are honored by Allah... is the athar good?
The Shaykh : Imam Ahmad in al-'Ilal.
The questioner : It is available, Shaykh, on the page.
The Shaykh : Yes, exactly. Fifty-five, part one.
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