Is it necessary to establish the argument against a person before ruling that he has committed disbelief, or is it also necessary that he understands it?
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The questioner : There is something on my mind, O Shaykh. Is it necessary?
The Shaykh : "You are not the first questioner to be confused by the news." What is it that is on your mind?
The questioner: In my mind, is it required to establish the proof or to understand the proof?
The Shaykh : Is it necessary to establish the argument, or...?
The questioner : Or to understand the argument.
The Shaykh: To understand the proof.
The questioner : The argument has been established against him!
The Shaykh : I know what your question is about, and I know that it is wrong. You want to say: If we establish the argument against him, has the argument been established against him whether he understood it or not? That is what you want to say!
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Yes, I see. And to complete what you want to say, you would say: Even if he did not understand it, the argument has been established against him, is that not so?
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : All of this is error upon error, and I do not say: misguidance upon misguidance. Have you seen if you recited a verse or verses from the Book of Allah to a non-Arab man who knows nothing of Arabic, has the argument been established against him?
The questioner : No, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Yes, look, your brother has a long story. I am surprised by his silence and quietness given the clarity of the speech. He said: No, while you are silent, replacing his long silence. Why do you not say what your brother said?
The questioner : With the verses and their recitation.
The Shaykh : Why do you not say what your brother said?!
The questioner : I say: No.
The Shaykh : Or why do you not say the opposite of what your brother said?!
The questioner : I say: No, but there is also the word "but."
The Shaykh: Regarding what?
The questioner : Based on this, here is my answer.
The Shaykh : Why?
The questioner : Because if you recite the Qur'an to him.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : And he does not know Arabic, he knows nothing of Arabic, then it is not necessary that the argument be established against him by reciting these verses, because the argument has been established by his hearing of Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him), or by Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him).
The Shaykh : May Allah guide you!
The questioner : O Allah, amen.
The Shaykh : After the covenant between us, you have strayed far from us. O Shaykh, how does he understand Muhammad?! How does he understand his call? He is a non-Arab. What is wrong with you!
The questioner: Has he not heard of Islam?
The Shaykh : What is Islam? Do you not know that Islam has concepts by the dozens? Say!
The questioner : We said it.
The Shaykh: Which Islam do you mean from these Islams?
The questioner: The purified Islam.
The Shaykh : Yes, from where does he understand this purified Islam?! You Arabs, you people of the Arabs, are still differing most severely in understanding this purified Islam, so what do you say about the non-Arabs like me?! So be careful, and beware of letting loose the declaration of disbelief against the Muslims. If you were a ruler and you saw one of these non-Arabs circling the graves and prostrating to the Shaykh al-Minawi, perhaps you would kill him? Say it plainly?
The questioner : If it is in the lands of Islam, yes, with the ruler, or if you were a ruler.
The Shaykh : For example, the lands of Islam, Turkey?!
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Lands of Islam?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : These people did not understand Islam, would you kill him?! Yes,Sahih Muslim 1792a - give me some of your water - how do you understand this verse?!
The questioner : In the Qur'an!
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : In the Qur'an?
The Shaykh: Huh?
The questioner : Repeat the verse, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh :[Al-An'am 6:19] Is there an error in the verse?
The questioner : No, you did not record the first thing!
The Shaykh : Ah, how do you understand it? I will explain the question to you!
The questioner : No, I understood the question.
The Shaykh : I do not think so.
The questioner : I understood the question.
The Shaykh : Let me explain it to you, it is easier for you.
The questioner: Go ahead.
The Shaykh :[Al-An'am 6:19] Meaning: Did he reach its wording, or its wording and its meaning?
The questioner : I said: I understood the question, but...
The Shaykh : No, don't, don't, don't.
The questioner : I am unable to answer.
The Shaykh : Do not open doors for yourself from which you are free and at ease.
The questioner : Okay, I cannot answer this question because it relates to exegesis. I cannot speak about the Qur'an about what I do not know.
The Shaykh : Okay, it relates to exegesis, you say, or to thinking?
The questioner : No, to tafsir.
The Shaykh : To exegesis?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, then we wait until you review the exegesis?
The questioner: No.
The Shaykh : "You are not the first questioner to be confused by the news." What is it that is on your mind?
The questioner: In my mind, is it required to establish the proof or to understand the proof?
The Shaykh : Is it necessary to establish the argument, or...?
The questioner : Or to understand the argument.
The Shaykh: To understand the proof.
The questioner : The argument has been established against him!
The Shaykh : I know what your question is about, and I know that it is wrong. You want to say: If we establish the argument against him, has the argument been established against him whether he understood it or not? That is what you want to say!
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Yes, I see. And to complete what you want to say, you would say: Even if he did not understand it, the argument has been established against him, is that not so?
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : All of this is error upon error, and I do not say: misguidance upon misguidance. Have you seen if you recited a verse or verses from the Book of Allah to a non-Arab man who knows nothing of Arabic, has the argument been established against him?
The questioner : No, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Yes, look, your brother has a long story. I am surprised by his silence and quietness given the clarity of the speech. He said: No, while you are silent, replacing his long silence. Why do you not say what your brother said?
The questioner : With the verses and their recitation.
The Shaykh : Why do you not say what your brother said?!
The questioner : I say: No.
The Shaykh : Or why do you not say the opposite of what your brother said?!
The questioner : I say: No, but there is also the word "but."
The Shaykh: Regarding what?
The questioner : Based on this, here is my answer.
The Shaykh : Why?
The questioner : Because if you recite the Qur'an to him.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : And he does not know Arabic, he knows nothing of Arabic, then it is not necessary that the argument be established against him by reciting these verses, because the argument has been established by his hearing of Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him), or by Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him).
The Shaykh : May Allah guide you!
The questioner : O Allah, amen.
The Shaykh : After the covenant between us, you have strayed far from us. O Shaykh, how does he understand Muhammad?! How does he understand his call? He is a non-Arab. What is wrong with you!
The questioner: Has he not heard of Islam?
The Shaykh : What is Islam? Do you not know that Islam has concepts by the dozens? Say!
The questioner : We said it.
The Shaykh: Which Islam do you mean from these Islams?
The questioner: The purified Islam.
The Shaykh : Yes, from where does he understand this purified Islam?! You Arabs, you people of the Arabs, are still differing most severely in understanding this purified Islam, so what do you say about the non-Arabs like me?! So be careful, and beware of letting loose the declaration of disbelief against the Muslims. If you were a ruler and you saw one of these non-Arabs circling the graves and prostrating to the Shaykh al-Minawi, perhaps you would kill him? Say it plainly?
The questioner : If it is in the lands of Islam, yes, with the ruler, or if you were a ruler.
The Shaykh : For example, the lands of Islam, Turkey?!
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Lands of Islam?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : These people did not understand Islam, would you kill him?! Yes,
My Lord, forgive my people, for they do not know.
اللهم اهْدِ قومي فإنَّهم لا يعلمونThe questioner : In the Qur'an!
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : In the Qur'an?
The Shaykh: Huh?
The questioner : Repeat the verse, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh :
that I may warn you thereby and whomever it reaches
لِأُنْذِرَكُمْ بِهِ وَمَنْ بَلَغَThe questioner : No, you did not record the first thing!
The Shaykh : Ah, how do you understand it? I will explain the question to you!
The questioner : No, I understood the question.
The Shaykh : I do not think so.
The questioner : I understood the question.
The Shaykh : Let me explain it to you, it is easier for you.
The questioner: Go ahead.
The Shaykh :
that I may warn you thereby and whomever it reaches
لِأُنْذِرَكُمْ بِهِ وَمَنْ بَلَغَThe questioner : I said: I understood the question, but...
The Shaykh : No, don't, don't, don't.
The questioner : I am unable to answer.
The Shaykh : Do not open doors for yourself from which you are free and at ease.
The questioner : Okay, I cannot answer this question because it relates to exegesis. I cannot speak about the Qur'an about what I do not know.
The Shaykh : Okay, it relates to exegesis, you say, or to thinking?
The questioner : No, to tafsir.
The Shaykh : To exegesis?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, then we wait until you review the exegesis?
The questioner: No.
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