What is the authenticity of the athar of Ibn Mas'ud in which he rebuked the people who formed circles in the mosque, with someone among them teaching them dhikr?
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The questioner: All right, no harm in having kept you a bit!
The Shaykh : Please, go ahead!
The questioner: I want to ask you about the chain of narration of a hadith I heard.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner: It’s just that I don’t remember its exact wording!
The Shaykh : Please, go ahead!
The questioner: But the beginning is that it’s as if someone went to the mosque and found them saying, and there was one in the middle as if they were in a circle, and they were saying: "There is no god but Allah," and behind him: "There is no god but Allah" a hundred times, and "Glory be to Allah" and "Praise be to Allah" and the like. So I’m telling you, he went and rebuked this practice in the hadith!
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner: Can I find out where to find it, and whether it is authentic or how it is?!
The Shaykh: First of all, my brother: this is not called a hadith.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: Rather, it is an athar!
The questioner: An athar, yes.
The Shaykh: Yes, and this athar is an authentic athar.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: And it is established from 'Abdullah ibn Mas'ud.
The questioner: From 'Abdullah ibn Mas'ud.
The Shaykh: And thirdly: perhaps it is the last one!
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: You will find it in the book "Sunan al-Darimi" at the beginning of the book.
The questioner: "Sunan al-Darimi"?!
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : May Allah preserve you.
The questioner: Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace and Allah's mercy and blessings. Welcome.
The questioner : You are welcome.
The Shaykh: How is the uncle doing?
The Shaykh : Please, go ahead!
The questioner: I want to ask you about the chain of narration of a hadith I heard.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner: It’s just that I don’t remember its exact wording!
The Shaykh : Please, go ahead!
The questioner: But the beginning is that it’s as if someone went to the mosque and found them saying, and there was one in the middle as if they were in a circle, and they were saying: "There is no god but Allah," and behind him: "There is no god but Allah" a hundred times, and "Glory be to Allah" and "Praise be to Allah" and the like. So I’m telling you, he went and rebuked this practice in the hadith!
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner: Can I find out where to find it, and whether it is authentic or how it is?!
The Shaykh: First of all, my brother: this is not called a hadith.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: Rather, it is an athar!
The questioner: An athar, yes.
The Shaykh: Yes, and this athar is an authentic athar.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: And it is established from 'Abdullah ibn Mas'ud.
The questioner: From 'Abdullah ibn Mas'ud.
The Shaykh: And thirdly: perhaps it is the last one!
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: You will find it in the book "Sunan al-Darimi" at the beginning of the book.
The questioner: "Sunan al-Darimi"?!
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : May Allah preserve you.
The questioner: Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace and Allah's mercy and blessings. Welcome.
The questioner : You are welcome.
The Shaykh: How is the uncle doing?
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