Discussion of the narrator Qanan ibn 'Abd Allah.
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The questioner : O our Shaykh, I read in *Silsilat al-Ahadith al-Sahihah* the hadith narrated by al-Bukhari and Imam Ahmad in his Musnad.
The Shaykh : No, that is not what al-Bukhari narrated.
The questioner : Ah, al-Bukhari, right.
The Shaykh : No, al-Bukhari is in al-Adab.
The questioner : Ah, in al-Adab, correct, that is accurate.
The Shaykh : Simply saying "al-Bukhari" is not permissible, because "al-Bukhari" means in al-Sahih.
The questioner : I say, O our Shaykh, and I am reading in the takhrij of the hadith
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : I mentioned a man who is Qanan ibn 'Abd Allah, and I said that Qanan is hasan al-hadith, and Ibn Ma'in graded him as thiqah in *al-Irwaa'* as well, the same statement. And this is a hasan chain, its men are thiqah except for Qanan ibn 'Abd Allah, this one, for Ibn Ma'in and Ibn Hibban graded him as thiqah, and al-Nasa'i said he is not strong. It is found in *Silsilat al-Ahadith al-Da'ifah* the same thing about this man. I said, and he has another route, narrated by al-Hasan ibn 'Arafah, not Ibn 'Arafah, in his Juzu' number 7, through Qanan ibn 'Abd al-Nahmi. I said, the one who isThe Shaykh : And this is a weak chain, Abu 'Ubayd did not hear from his father, and Qanan has weakness in him, so I do not know, meaning, if you could clarify the picture for me.
The Shaykh : He has weakness, he is not strong. It is not the same as saying he is weak. If someone is thiqah, it is permissible to say he has weakness, but it is not permissible to say he is a weak thiqah.
The questioner : May Allah reward you, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Clear?
The questioner : Yes, yes.
The Shaykh : Ah
The questioner : By Allah, O Shaykh, if you could repeat it.
The Shaykh : I say, if it is said of a narrator that he has no weakness, he is like the one of whom it is said he is not strong, and that is not the same as saying he is weak. And the result of this detail and distinction is that it is possible to say "thiqah with weakness in him," but it is not possible to say "weak thiqah."
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, so, not strong.
The questioner : And the result, it is possible to say, O our Shaykh,
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner : And the result, it is possible to say thiqah with weakness in him.
The Shaykh : Yes, weak thiqah, likewise. In reality, there are matters with extreme precision, and some of the young ones waste our time in responding to them and clarifying their error. Likewise, the statement of the hadith scholar so-and-so "he is not strong" is not like if he said "he is not strong at all." If it is said of a narrator "he is not strong," it is not like if it is said of him "he is not strong at all." Meaning, with the indefinite and the definite, there is a difference between the two things. Meaning, "not strong" means not very strong, whereas "not strong at all" means not strong at all. Ah, likewise, for example, if it is said of the narrator "so-and-so has munkar narrations," it is not like if it is said "he has a munkar hadith." And so on, there are precise differences, and the result of this distinction is the grading as hasan of the one of whom it is said "he is not strong" if he is graded as thiqah, and likewise the grading as hasan of the one of whom it is said "he has weakness" if he is graded as thiqah, and so on.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : Not strong if he is graded as thiqah, and likewise the hadith of the one of whom it is said "he has weakness" is graded as hasan if he is graded as thiqah.
The questioner : If he is graded as thiqah, meaning by another Imam.
Another questioner : No, not by corroborations or supporting chains or routes.
The Shaykh : No, the important thing now is not a matter of another Imam or the same Imam. The important thing is that you have concluded that this man is thiqah, and you found an Imam who says he is not strong, meaning he is a thiqah with a bit of weakness, but his hadith does not drop from the rank of hasan. Likewise, if it is said of another that he has weakness, this does not drop the reliance on his hadith, but it drops it from the highest rank, which is sahih.
The questioner : May Allah reward you, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : We have to go and analyze it because he seesAbu Layla : weakness in his activity, it is not like that.
The questioner : Not strong.
The Shaykh : Not strong.
The questioner : The one next to him dozed off.
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أفشوا السلام تسلمواThe Shaykh : No, that is not what al-Bukhari narrated.
The questioner : Ah, al-Bukhari, right.
The Shaykh : No, al-Bukhari is in al-Adab.
The questioner : Ah, in al-Adab, correct, that is accurate.
The Shaykh : Simply saying "al-Bukhari" is not permissible, because "al-Bukhari" means in al-Sahih.
The questioner : I say, O our Shaykh, and I am reading in the takhrij of the hadith
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : I mentioned a man who is Qanan ibn 'Abd Allah, and I said that Qanan is hasan al-hadith, and Ibn Ma'in graded him as thiqah in *al-Irwaa'* as well, the same statement. And this is a hasan chain, its men are thiqah except for Qanan ibn 'Abd Allah, this one, for Ibn Ma'in and Ibn Hibban graded him as thiqah, and al-Nasa'i said he is not strong. It is found in *Silsilat al-Ahadith al-Da'ifah* the same thing about this man. I said, and he has another route, narrated by al-Hasan ibn 'Arafah, not Ibn 'Arafah, in his Juzu' number 7, through Qanan ibn 'Abd al-Nahmi. I said, the one who isThe Shaykh : And this is a weak chain, Abu 'Ubayd did not hear from his father, and Qanan has weakness in him, so I do not know, meaning, if you could clarify the picture for me.
The Shaykh : He has weakness, he is not strong. It is not the same as saying he is weak. If someone is thiqah, it is permissible to say he has weakness, but it is not permissible to say he is a weak thiqah.
The questioner : May Allah reward you, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Clear?
The questioner : Yes, yes.
The Shaykh : Ah
The questioner : By Allah, O Shaykh, if you could repeat it.
The Shaykh : I say, if it is said of a narrator that he has no weakness, he is like the one of whom it is said he is not strong, and that is not the same as saying he is weak. And the result of this detail and distinction is that it is possible to say "thiqah with weakness in him," but it is not possible to say "weak thiqah."
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, so, not strong.
The questioner : And the result, it is possible to say, O our Shaykh,
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner : And the result, it is possible to say thiqah with weakness in him.
The Shaykh : Yes, weak thiqah, likewise. In reality, there are matters with extreme precision, and some of the young ones waste our time in responding to them and clarifying their error. Likewise, the statement of the hadith scholar so-and-so "he is not strong" is not like if he said "he is not strong at all." If it is said of a narrator "he is not strong," it is not like if it is said of him "he is not strong at all." Meaning, with the indefinite and the definite, there is a difference between the two things. Meaning, "not strong" means not very strong, whereas "not strong at all" means not strong at all. Ah, likewise, for example, if it is said of the narrator "so-and-so has munkar narrations," it is not like if it is said "he has a munkar hadith." And so on, there are precise differences, and the result of this distinction is the grading as hasan of the one of whom it is said "he is not strong" if he is graded as thiqah, and likewise the grading as hasan of the one of whom it is said "he has weakness" if he is graded as thiqah, and so on.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : Not strong if he is graded as thiqah, and likewise the hadith of the one of whom it is said "he has weakness" is graded as hasan if he is graded as thiqah.
The questioner : If he is graded as thiqah, meaning by another Imam.
Another questioner : No, not by corroborations or supporting chains or routes.
The Shaykh : No, the important thing now is not a matter of another Imam or the same Imam. The important thing is that you have concluded that this man is thiqah, and you found an Imam who says he is not strong, meaning he is a thiqah with a bit of weakness, but his hadith does not drop from the rank of hasan. Likewise, if it is said of another that he has weakness, this does not drop the reliance on his hadith, but it drops it from the highest rank, which is sahih.
The questioner : May Allah reward you, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : We have to go and analyze it because he seesAbu Layla : weakness in his activity, it is not like that.
The questioner : Not strong.
The Shaykh : Not strong.
The questioner : The one next to him dozed off.
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