Ibn Hajar mentioned that the Salaf say: deeds are a condition for the perfection of faith, and the Mu'tazilah say that deeds are a condition for the validity of faith. Is this correct?
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The questioner : Our Shaykh, Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, in Fath al-Bari, says that deeds are a condition for the perfection of faith, as the Salaf say, and the Mu'tazilah say that deeds are a condition for the validity of faith...
The Shaykh : ...a condition.
The questioner : A condition for the validity of faith; they mention this, saying it is from Ibn Hajar's personal opinions in defense of al-Shafi'i. Is this principle he established not from...
The Shaykh : ...correct, without a doubt, making deeds in reality...
The student : One question...
The questioner : A condition for perfection or a condition for validity? He says it is a condition for perfection. Ibn Hajar; they transmit this.
The Shaykh : Everyone who says that deeds are a condition for validity, not a condition for perfection, has excluded himself from faith.
The questioner : Glory be to Allah.
The Shaykh : And he is not aware of it.
The questioner : We have reached, we have reached the solution, if Allah wills, with this statement. Rather, they say that Ibn Hajar brought it from his personal opinions, unfortunately.
The Shaykh : What do we have to do with them?
The questioner : May Allah reward you.
The Shaykh : It means it is sufficient, in writing, for a person to say the word, to appear before people that he draws near to Allah with it, while he is in the lowest depths of the Fire with it.
The questioner : There is no god but Allah.
The Shaykh : Because they do not perform them.
The questioner : No, never.
The Shaykh : Is there a sinless man after the prophets?
The questioner : Not at all.
The Shaykh : So then, everyone who says this word has judged himself to be an apostate.
The questioner : That is it.
The Shaykh : But the matter is as Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (may Allah have mercy on him) said: in a work of the heart and in a work of the limbs. The work of the heart is a condition for validity.
The questioner : Yes, our Shaykh, and the Quranists in the north... in the north of Iraq, meaning Sulaymaniyah, Arbil... they call themselves Quranists... but the Quran... what is your guidance for them? They say we do not recognize the Sunnah, and Allah.
The student : ... The Shaykh : The letters I referred to you to earlier, which were written on this topic, are sufficient for you, if Allah wills.
The questioner : If Allah wills.
The student : Because he lengthened the discussion in them. May Allah reward him.
The questioner : Yes, may Allah reward you with good. We have taken from your time, Shaykh Abu Malik.
The student : No, no, one more, brother. Ya Saleh, what do you have? Hurry, so that when we are done with the issues, we can leave.
The questioner : May Allah bless you, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : May Allah bless you.
The student : A question. Choose one question and leave the rest for other than the Shaykh.
The Shaykh : ...a condition.
The questioner : A condition for the validity of faith; they mention this, saying it is from Ibn Hajar's personal opinions in defense of al-Shafi'i. Is this principle he established not from...
The Shaykh : ...correct, without a doubt, making deeds in reality...
The student : One question...
The questioner : A condition for perfection or a condition for validity? He says it is a condition for perfection. Ibn Hajar; they transmit this.
The Shaykh : Everyone who says that deeds are a condition for validity, not a condition for perfection, has excluded himself from faith.
The questioner : Glory be to Allah.
The Shaykh : And he is not aware of it.
The questioner : We have reached, we have reached the solution, if Allah wills, with this statement. Rather, they say that Ibn Hajar brought it from his personal opinions, unfortunately.
The Shaykh : What do we have to do with them?
The questioner : May Allah reward you.
The Shaykh : It means it is sufficient, in writing, for a person to say the word, to appear before people that he draws near to Allah with it, while he is in the lowest depths of the Fire with it.
The questioner : There is no god but Allah.
The Shaykh : Because they do not perform them.
The questioner : No, never.
The Shaykh : Is there a sinless man after the prophets?
The questioner : Not at all.
The Shaykh : So then, everyone who says this word has judged himself to be an apostate.
The questioner : That is it.
The Shaykh : But the matter is as Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (may Allah have mercy on him) said: in a work of the heart and in a work of the limbs. The work of the heart is a condition for validity.
The questioner : Yes, our Shaykh, and the Quranists in the north... in the north of Iraq, meaning Sulaymaniyah, Arbil... they call themselves Quranists... but the Quran... what is your guidance for them? They say we do not recognize the Sunnah, and Allah.
The student : ... The Shaykh : The letters I referred to you to earlier, which were written on this topic, are sufficient for you, if Allah wills.
The questioner : If Allah wills.
The student : Because he lengthened the discussion in them. May Allah reward him.
The questioner : Yes, may Allah reward you with good. We have taken from your time, Shaykh Abu Malik.
The student : No, no, one more, brother. Ya Saleh, what do you have? Hurry, so that when we are done with the issues, we can leave.
The questioner : May Allah bless you, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : May Allah bless you.
The student : A question. Choose one question and leave the rest for other than the Shaykh.
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