Discussion of al-Hasan al-Basri’s narration from Abu Hurayrah.
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The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Of course, but it requires gathering and thorough investigation so that we can form an opinion regarding "Abbad" first, and then regarding his explicit statement about al-Hasan, where he said: "Abu Hurayrah narrated to us." Because there is a problem here involving a subtle point, similar to what we mentioned regarding Ibn Hibban, who said that al-Hasan al-Basri did not meet Abu Hurayrah. This is the well-known view among hadith scholars. However, if we return to the biography of al-Hasan al-Basri, we find that he has some hadiths in which he explicitly stated that he heard them from Abu Hurayrah, other than this one. Therefore, what I mention is that al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar says: Al-Hasan al-Basri, regarding his narration from Abu Hurayrah, is treated in the same manner as al-Hasan al-Basri’s narration from Samurah ibn Jundub. The original position is that al-Hasan did not hear from Samurah except one or two hadiths in which he explicitly stated that he heard them, and one of these hadiths is mentioned in "Sahih al-Bukhari" concerning the 'aqiqah, in which he explicitly stated that he heard it.
In the biography of al-Hasan al-Basri, al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani mentions that—also—there are narrations in which al-Hasan explicitly stated that he heard from Abu Hurayrah. In my mind, he chose this matter; that is, he heard from him in some hadiths. I used to write something in a commentary on this: Al-Hasan ibn Abi al-Hasan al-Basri, Abu Sa'id, the freed slave of the Ansar, a booklet of two, three, four, five, six, seven pages, all about al-Hasan al-Basri. What does it say here? "And Ibn al-Madini said: I heard Yahya al-Qattan, and he was asked: Did al-Hasan say: I heard from 'Imran ibn al-Husayn? He said: Not from a trustworthy narrator." Meaning, the narrator from al-Hasan al-Basri says that al-Hasan, in this narration, said: I heard from 'Imran, but he is not the trustworthy one who narrates this hearing from al-Hasan. And Ibn al-Madini and Abu Hatim said: He did not hear from him, and that is not established from a path that is authentic. And Ahmad said: Some of them said about al-Hasan: Abu Hurayrah narrated to us, and some of them said about al-Hasan: 'Imran ibn al-Husayn narrated to me, in denial of those who said that. Ahmad says that some of them said about al-Hasan: Abu Hurayrah narrated to us, 'Imran narrated to us; Ahmad denies that; it seems he is pointing to the hadith that he narrated in "al-Musnad," where his son said that al-Hasan did not hear from Abu Hurayrah, even though he said what? "Abu Hurayrah narrated to us." Yes, that is right.
And Ibn Ma'in said: He did not hear from 'Imran, and he said, to the end of it. I want to look at this commentary of mine. Yes, "I heard from 'Imran ibn al-Husayn." This is a commentary on 'Imran. He said: I used to walk with 'Imran ibn al-Husayn. This is a narration through the path of Shurayk, and we are discussing his memory. Then he narrated with a sound chain from Khuthaymah or Khaythimah—also—from al-Hasan from 'Imran, from 'Imran. Then he narrated a portion from the path of al-Mubarak, who is ibn Fadalah, from al-Hasan, who said: 'Imran informed me. I said: So he mentioned hadiths. Then he narrated a portion: Abu Mu'awiyah narrated to us, Zaydah narrated from Hisham, who said: Al-Hasan claimed that 'Imran ibn al-Husayn narrated to him. I said: So he mentioned the hadith of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) covering himself and sleeping through the Fajr prayer, but this is an anomalous narration, as I clarified in "al-Ahadith al-Sahihah" in the hadith:Sunan Ibn Majah 3531Da’if (Darussalam).
Here it says: Rabi'ah ibn Kaththum narrated to us, who said: I heard al-Hasan say: Abu Hurayrah narrated to us. My father said: Rabi'ah ibn Kaththum did not live long enough to hear anything; al-Hasan did not hear from Abu Hurayrah. I said to my father: Salim al-Khayyatt narrated from al-Hasan, who said: I heard Abu Hurayrah. He said: This is what clarifies the weakness of Salim; because he explicitly stated the narration from al-Hasan. I said—here I am the writer: And I found his hearing from him from two other paths from him in Ibn Sa'd, part seven, page one hundred and fifty-eight. He brought out the narration of ibn Kaththum after them, and Ahmad from a third path from him with explicit statement of hearing from Abu Hurayrah.
The questioner : Imam Ahmad ...?
The Shaykh : Yes, he did not meet Jabir, and he said: But to the end of it. Let us see here if there is a summary from al-Hafiz.
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The Shaykh: Now, al-Hafiz, and it occurred in "Sunan al-Nasa'i" from the path of Ayyub from al-Hasan from Abu Hurayrah in the chapter on mutual divorce, where al-Hasan said: I did not hear from Abu Hurayrah except this hadith. It was brought out from Ishaq ibn Rahawayh from al-Mughirah ibn Salama from Wahb from Ayyub. Al-Hafiz said: This is a chain in which no one has a fault to find with any of its narrators, and it supports that he heard from Abu Hurayrah in general, in general, and his story in this is similar to his story with Samurah, the same.
And Sulayman ibn Kathir said from Yunus ibn 'Ubayd, who said: And he appointed him in the days to the end of it, to the end of it. Yes, this is the summary, I mean.
The questioner : In the narration that he heard from him only this hadith ... it may be, Shaykh, that he heard.
The Shaykh : Yes, it may be, but it needs a chain that means there is no defect, no fault, whereas this "Abbad" is disputed.
The questioner : And this, Shaykh, he did not hear except once.
The Shaykh : Hmm.
The questioner : There is a slight fault in it.
The Shaykh : Never, just as al-Hafiz said here: "There is no fault in any of its narrators."
The Shaykh: Now ... that is enough for you.
The Shaykh : Of course, but it requires gathering and thorough investigation so that we can form an opinion regarding "Abbad" first, and then regarding his explicit statement about al-Hasan, where he said: "Abu Hurayrah narrated to us." Because there is a problem here involving a subtle point, similar to what we mentioned regarding Ibn Hibban, who said that al-Hasan al-Basri did not meet Abu Hurayrah. This is the well-known view among hadith scholars. However, if we return to the biography of al-Hasan al-Basri, we find that he has some hadiths in which he explicitly stated that he heard them from Abu Hurayrah, other than this one. Therefore, what I mention is that al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar says: Al-Hasan al-Basri, regarding his narration from Abu Hurayrah, is treated in the same manner as al-Hasan al-Basri’s narration from Samurah ibn Jundub. The original position is that al-Hasan did not hear from Samurah except one or two hadiths in which he explicitly stated that he heard them, and one of these hadiths is mentioned in "Sahih al-Bukhari" concerning the 'aqiqah, in which he explicitly stated that he heard it.
In the biography of al-Hasan al-Basri, al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani mentions that—also—there are narrations in which al-Hasan explicitly stated that he heard from Abu Hurayrah. In my mind, he chose this matter; that is, he heard from him in some hadiths. I used to write something in a commentary on this: Al-Hasan ibn Abi al-Hasan al-Basri, Abu Sa'id, the freed slave of the Ansar, a booklet of two, three, four, five, six, seven pages, all about al-Hasan al-Basri. What does it say here? "And Ibn al-Madini said: I heard Yahya al-Qattan, and he was asked: Did al-Hasan say: I heard from 'Imran ibn al-Husayn? He said: Not from a trustworthy narrator." Meaning, the narrator from al-Hasan al-Basri says that al-Hasan, in this narration, said: I heard from 'Imran, but he is not the trustworthy one who narrates this hearing from al-Hasan. And Ibn al-Madini and Abu Hatim said: He did not hear from him, and that is not established from a path that is authentic. And Ahmad said: Some of them said about al-Hasan: Abu Hurayrah narrated to us, and some of them said about al-Hasan: 'Imran ibn al-Husayn narrated to me, in denial of those who said that. Ahmad says that some of them said about al-Hasan: Abu Hurayrah narrated to us, 'Imran narrated to us; Ahmad denies that; it seems he is pointing to the hadith that he narrated in "al-Musnad," where his son said that al-Hasan did not hear from Abu Hurayrah, even though he said what? "Abu Hurayrah narrated to us." Yes, that is right.
And Ibn Ma'in said: He did not hear from 'Imran, and he said, to the end of it. I want to look at this commentary of mine. Yes, "I heard from 'Imran ibn al-Husayn." This is a commentary on 'Imran. He said: I used to walk with 'Imran ibn al-Husayn. This is a narration through the path of Shurayk, and we are discussing his memory. Then he narrated with a sound chain from Khuthaymah or Khaythimah—also—from al-Hasan from 'Imran, from 'Imran. Then he narrated a portion from the path of al-Mubarak, who is ibn Fadalah, from al-Hasan, who said: 'Imran informed me. I said: So he mentioned hadiths. Then he narrated a portion: Abu Mu'awiyah narrated to us, Zaydah narrated from Hisham, who said: Al-Hasan claimed that 'Imran ibn al-Husayn narrated to him. I said: So he mentioned the hadith of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) covering himself and sleeping through the Fajr prayer, but this is an anomalous narration, as I clarified in "al-Ahadith al-Sahihah" in the hadith:
for it will only increase you in weakness.
أما إنها لا تزيدك إلا وهنًاHere it says: Rabi'ah ibn Kaththum narrated to us, who said: I heard al-Hasan say: Abu Hurayrah narrated to us. My father said: Rabi'ah ibn Kaththum did not live long enough to hear anything; al-Hasan did not hear from Abu Hurayrah. I said to my father: Salim al-Khayyatt narrated from al-Hasan, who said: I heard Abu Hurayrah. He said: This is what clarifies the weakness of Salim; because he explicitly stated the narration from al-Hasan. I said—here I am the writer: And I found his hearing from him from two other paths from him in Ibn Sa'd, part seven, page one hundred and fifty-eight. He brought out the narration of ibn Kaththum after them, and Ahmad from a third path from him with explicit statement of hearing from Abu Hurayrah.
The questioner : Imam Ahmad ...?
The Shaykh : Yes, he did not meet Jabir, and he said: But to the end of it. Let us see here if there is a summary from al-Hafiz.
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The Shaykh: Now, al-Hafiz, and it occurred in "Sunan al-Nasa'i" from the path of Ayyub from al-Hasan from Abu Hurayrah in the chapter on mutual divorce, where al-Hasan said: I did not hear from Abu Hurayrah except this hadith. It was brought out from Ishaq ibn Rahawayh from al-Mughirah ibn Salama from Wahb from Ayyub. Al-Hafiz said: This is a chain in which no one has a fault to find with any of its narrators, and it supports that he heard from Abu Hurayrah in general, in general, and his story in this is similar to his story with Samurah, the same.
And Sulayman ibn Kathir said from Yunus ibn 'Ubayd, who said: And he appointed him in the days to the end of it, to the end of it. Yes, this is the summary, I mean.
The questioner : In the narration that he heard from him only this hadith ... it may be, Shaykh, that he heard.
The Shaykh : Yes, it may be, but it needs a chain that means there is no defect, no fault, whereas this "Abbad" is disputed.
The questioner : And this, Shaykh, he did not hear except once.
The Shaykh : Hmm.
The questioner : There is a slight fault in it.
The Shaykh : Never, just as al-Hafiz said here: "There is no fault in any of its narrators."
The Shaykh: Now ... that is enough for you.
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