Is the hadith of Ibn 'Umar and Abu Hurayrah evidence for the permissibility of trimming the beard?
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The questioner : O Shaykh, one of your students in Jordan came here and spoke on the topic of the beard. I said to him, regarding the handful that you speak of, O Shaykh, it is established from Ibn 'Umar that he did not trim. I said to him, Imam al-Nakha'i said the Companions used to trim from their beards. Then Imam al-Nakha'i said, "I did not see anyone doing so except Ibn 'Umar and Abu Hurayrah." Ibn 'Umar and Abu Hurayrah.
The Shaykh : I did not understand from you what the difference is between the narration of al-Nakha'i and the narration of Ibn 'Umar and Abu Hurayrah.
The questioner : He says that Imam al-Nakha'i mentioned only Abu Hurayrah and Ibn 'Umar, not the Companions.
The Shaykh : I am asking you now, you, Zakariyya.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : You objected.The student : You objected to what was transmitted to you from Ibn 'Umar and Abu Hurayrah with the narration of al-Nakha'i. So I am asking you now, what is the difference between the narration of al-Nakha'i and the narration of Ibn 'Umar and Abu Hurayrah?
The questioner : No, O Shaykh, it is not an objection. I strengthened the action of Ibn 'Umar with the statement of al-Nakha'i: Ibn 'Umar and Abu Hurayrah.
The Shaykh : And why does he respond to you?
The questioner : He says that al-Nakha'i did not intend all the Companions.
The Shaykh : Excuse me, my brother.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Suppose it is a weak narration, but it agrees with the narration of Ibn 'Umar and Abu Hurayrah.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Why, is there a disagreement, or does he find a disagreement between you and him? Because when one says "but such and such," it means an objection.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : What is the point of the objection here? Did I make myself clear to you or not?
The questioner : How did you not understand?
The Shaykh : You say that when you mentioned to him the narration of al-Nakha'i, he said, "But al-Nakha'i did not catch up with [the Companions]."
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Well, what is the meaning of this correction of yours?
The questioner : That it is only the action of a Companion...
The Shaykh : You are becoming confused. You have not memorized your lesson, O Zakariyya.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : That is how it appears, my brother. Take the summary: The narration of al-Nakha'i, which states that the Companions used to trim, is explained by the narration of Ibn 'Umar and Abu Hurayrah. Yes.
The questioner : I did not hear...
The Shaykh : I say the narration of al-Nakha'i.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Who did not catch up with the Companions.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Is explained by the narration of the Companions, Ibn 'Umar and Abu Hurayrah.
The questioner : Yes, yes.
The Shaykh : So there is no difference between their narrations and the narration of al-Nakha'i.
The questioner : There is no disagreement.
The Shaykh: There is no disagreement.
The Shaykh : I did not understand from you what the difference is between the narration of al-Nakha'i and the narration of Ibn 'Umar and Abu Hurayrah.
The questioner : He says that Imam al-Nakha'i mentioned only Abu Hurayrah and Ibn 'Umar, not the Companions.
The Shaykh : I am asking you now, you, Zakariyya.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : You objected.The student : You objected to what was transmitted to you from Ibn 'Umar and Abu Hurayrah with the narration of al-Nakha'i. So I am asking you now, what is the difference between the narration of al-Nakha'i and the narration of Ibn 'Umar and Abu Hurayrah?
The questioner : No, O Shaykh, it is not an objection. I strengthened the action of Ibn 'Umar with the statement of al-Nakha'i: Ibn 'Umar and Abu Hurayrah.
The Shaykh : And why does he respond to you?
The questioner : He says that al-Nakha'i did not intend all the Companions.
The Shaykh : Excuse me, my brother.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Suppose it is a weak narration, but it agrees with the narration of Ibn 'Umar and Abu Hurayrah.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Why, is there a disagreement, or does he find a disagreement between you and him? Because when one says "but such and such," it means an objection.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : What is the point of the objection here? Did I make myself clear to you or not?
The questioner : How did you not understand?
The Shaykh : You say that when you mentioned to him the narration of al-Nakha'i, he said, "But al-Nakha'i did not catch up with [the Companions]."
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Well, what is the meaning of this correction of yours?
The questioner : That it is only the action of a Companion...
The Shaykh : You are becoming confused. You have not memorized your lesson, O Zakariyya.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : That is how it appears, my brother. Take the summary: The narration of al-Nakha'i, which states that the Companions used to trim, is explained by the narration of Ibn 'Umar and Abu Hurayrah. Yes.
The questioner : I did not hear...
The Shaykh : I say the narration of al-Nakha'i.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Who did not catch up with the Companions.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Is explained by the narration of the Companions, Ibn 'Umar and Abu Hurayrah.
The questioner : Yes, yes.
The Shaykh : So there is no difference between their narrations and the narration of al-Nakha'i.
The questioner : There is no disagreement.
The Shaykh: There is no disagreement.
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