What is the ruling on welcoming those who wake people up for the pre-dawn meal with clapping and drumming, and what is the ruling on giving them money for their drumming and clapping?
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The questioner : First, we do not welcome the one who wakes people up for the pre-dawn meal.
The Shaykh : First, what?
The questioner : We do not welcome it with drumming and waking people up... In the last part of Ramadan, they collect money. So is the money they take, for example, forbidden?
The Shaykh : First, do you still have drums? I am asking you: is drumming lawful or forbidden? If you know that it is forbidden, then what is built upon the forbidden is forbidden. But let us assume the one who wakes people up is not the drummer. A good one who wakes people up, not the drummer, meaning, "O sleepers, remember Allah." This is one of the means. This becomes a religious innovation, and the reward he imposes on people is not his right. So whoever volunteers for him, from the perspective of his volunteering, it is lawful for him. But from the perspective of helping him in his profession, it is not lawful. Is that clear to you?
The questioner : I mean, what happened to us, O our Shaykh,
The Shaykh : I did not answer.
Another questioner: He answered you.
The questioner : You asked me a question.
The Shaykh : I answered you and made it clear to you. Or if it was not clear to you, do not trouble yourself by repeating the words. I am troubling myself. Hehe.
The questioner : My daughter is asking you a question on the phone. She says, "O my father, may Allah preserve you, ask him."
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Because the Shaykh sometimes... and then it becomes hasty, and some of the interaction, yes, yes, yes.
The Shaykh : Hehehe.
The questioner : So this is one... .
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed, the people... on the phone, because we have allocated two hours after the night prayer for answering questions. One person asks a question, goes around and around, and says, "My brother, ask directly," and it wastes our time. The last thing I remember is that the examples are countless, but, praise be to Allah, they evaporate from my mind. But yesterday, what happened? Perhaps one of the group, meaning, he says to me, "O Professor, is wearing the dishdasha obligatory or a recommended practice? Is the dishdasha obligatory or a recommended practice?" I said to him, "It is neither obligatory nor a recommended practice, because a person who does not wear the dishdasha and wears trousers that cover his private parts has fulfilled the obligation. Or, for example, he wears an izar like the pilgrims do, covering his private parts. So it is not that the dishdasha specifically is obligatory. But, my brother, I feel that this is not your question. You are asking about the pants." He said, "Yes, by Allah." I said to him, "Why did you not ask from the beginning?"
The audience: They laugh.
The Shaykh : Why are you going around and around? Answer her about the pants; it is the same as that.
The questioner : Okay, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Let us return to the beginning. If the one who wakes people up is a drummer, he is using a forbidden instrument. So his work, and it is not permissible, obviously, right or not?
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : So if we give him [money], we are helping him in this misguidance. It is clear. We said that even if he is not a drummer, but rather he recites words to wake people up, the money you give him, if you give it to him from your own pocket, it will not be forbidden, because the money that is taken, as the common people say, "with the sword of shame," is forbidden. But this is a saying for which there is an authentic hadith, and it is his saying (peace and blessings be upon him)Sunan ad-Daraqutni 13:78 So if this one who wakes people up shames people, he takes money from them with the sword of shame. This is forbidden and not lawful for him. But if you volunteer to give him money, it is lawful for him because he did not take it from you with the sword of shame. Is that clear?
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : The last point, but you are not required to give it to him because you would be helping him in his religious innovation. Do you understand now?
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : I think after you understood, you will be at ease from the talk.
The questioner : May Allah will it
The Shaykh : Right or not?
The questioner : Correct.
The Shaykh : We are at ease... but they... each other... because this is like what our friend did, the Arabic subject teacher, Abu what?
The questioner : Abu Hamzah.
The Shaykh : Abu Hamzah. Okay, these are from the acquaintances, approximately closer to this methodology. This Arab from the Islamic Institute.
The questioner : Yes, indeed
The Shaykh : You know how it is, and yet this imposition approximately failed... Our brothers ask some lawyers or such, and so on. How do we know this case? And I do not think it is possible to impose such a public imposition on them. This is first. Second, this talk that he is saying... May Allah have mercy on you, he said, "Shaykh Ahmad, this is also talk that is at the height of foolishness. Now, suppose these people responded to this misguidance and took off the dishdashas and put on pants. Then every person wearing pants would look the same. For example, one military pant, one might be simple, one might be fancy, one ironed, one not ironed, and so on. One tight, one wide... Z"
The questioner : Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.
The questioner : Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : Once, may Allah reward you. And upon you be peace and the mercy of Allah and His blessings. I mean, they will not respond. The problem and the observations are not between me. I do not imagine that, like the student, there are, for example, twenty or forty here. No, all of them, meaning, a group of students.
The questioner : There are, meaning, not unemployed.
The Shaykh : Yes, all of them are the same in terms of wealth and poverty.
The questioner : No, no.
The Shaykh : Of course, they are completely different. People... some iron the shirt and the pants, and some may never iron in their lives because they are poor, barely living with their fathers. How do they impose this system on them?
The questioner : Indeed.
The Shaykh : No, it means neither religion nor intellect.
Another questioner: Shaykh, I have a question.
The Shaykh : Welcome.
Another questioner: Double welcome.
The Shaykh : How are you? I hope you are well, if Allah wills.
Another questioner: Praise be to Allah.
The Shaykh : Yes
The Shaykh : First, what?
The questioner : We do not welcome it with drumming and waking people up... In the last part of Ramadan, they collect money. So is the money they take, for example, forbidden?
The Shaykh : First, do you still have drums? I am asking you: is drumming lawful or forbidden? If you know that it is forbidden, then what is built upon the forbidden is forbidden. But let us assume the one who wakes people up is not the drummer. A good one who wakes people up, not the drummer, meaning, "O sleepers, remember Allah." This is one of the means. This becomes a religious innovation, and the reward he imposes on people is not his right. So whoever volunteers for him, from the perspective of his volunteering, it is lawful for him. But from the perspective of helping him in his profession, it is not lawful. Is that clear to you?
The questioner : I mean, what happened to us, O our Shaykh,
The Shaykh : I did not answer.
Another questioner: He answered you.
The questioner : You asked me a question.
The Shaykh : I answered you and made it clear to you. Or if it was not clear to you, do not trouble yourself by repeating the words. I am troubling myself. Hehe.
The questioner : My daughter is asking you a question on the phone. She says, "O my father, may Allah preserve you, ask him."
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Because the Shaykh sometimes... and then it becomes hasty, and some of the interaction, yes, yes, yes.
The Shaykh : Hehehe.
The questioner : So this is one... .
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed, the people... on the phone, because we have allocated two hours after the night prayer for answering questions. One person asks a question, goes around and around, and says, "My brother, ask directly," and it wastes our time. The last thing I remember is that the examples are countless, but, praise be to Allah, they evaporate from my mind. But yesterday, what happened? Perhaps one of the group, meaning, he says to me, "O Professor, is wearing the dishdasha obligatory or a recommended practice? Is the dishdasha obligatory or a recommended practice?" I said to him, "It is neither obligatory nor a recommended practice, because a person who does not wear the dishdasha and wears trousers that cover his private parts has fulfilled the obligation. Or, for example, he wears an izar like the pilgrims do, covering his private parts. So it is not that the dishdasha specifically is obligatory. But, my brother, I feel that this is not your question. You are asking about the pants." He said, "Yes, by Allah." I said to him, "Why did you not ask from the beginning?"
The audience: They laugh.
The Shaykh : Why are you going around and around? Answer her about the pants; it is the same as that.
The questioner : Okay, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Let us return to the beginning. If the one who wakes people up is a drummer, he is using a forbidden instrument. So his work, and it is not permissible, obviously, right or not?
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : So if we give him [money], we are helping him in this misguidance. It is clear. We said that even if he is not a drummer, but rather he recites words to wake people up, the money you give him, if you give it to him from your own pocket, it will not be forbidden, because the money that is taken, as the common people say, "with the sword of shame," is forbidden. But this is a saying for which there is an authentic hadith, and it is his saying (peace and blessings be upon him)
The wealth of a Muslim man is not lawful except with his willing consent.
لا يحل مال امرئ مسلم إلا بطيب نفسهThe questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : The last point, but you are not required to give it to him because you would be helping him in his religious innovation. Do you understand now?
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : I think after you understood, you will be at ease from the talk.
The questioner : May Allah will it
The Shaykh : Right or not?
The questioner : Correct.
The Shaykh : We are at ease... but they... each other... because this is like what our friend did, the Arabic subject teacher, Abu what?
The questioner : Abu Hamzah.
The Shaykh : Abu Hamzah. Okay, these are from the acquaintances, approximately closer to this methodology. This Arab from the Islamic Institute.
The questioner : Yes, indeed
The Shaykh : You know how it is, and yet this imposition approximately failed... Our brothers ask some lawyers or such, and so on. How do we know this case? And I do not think it is possible to impose such a public imposition on them. This is first. Second, this talk that he is saying... May Allah have mercy on you, he said, "Shaykh Ahmad, this is also talk that is at the height of foolishness. Now, suppose these people responded to this misguidance and took off the dishdashas and put on pants. Then every person wearing pants would look the same. For example, one military pant, one might be simple, one might be fancy, one ironed, one not ironed, and so on. One tight, one wide... Z"
The questioner : Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.
The questioner : Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : Once, may Allah reward you. And upon you be peace and the mercy of Allah and His blessings. I mean, they will not respond. The problem and the observations are not between me. I do not imagine that, like the student, there are, for example, twenty or forty here. No, all of them, meaning, a group of students.
The questioner : There are, meaning, not unemployed.
The Shaykh : Yes, all of them are the same in terms of wealth and poverty.
The questioner : No, no.
The Shaykh : Of course, they are completely different. People... some iron the shirt and the pants, and some may never iron in their lives because they are poor, barely living with their fathers. How do they impose this system on them?
The questioner : Indeed.
The Shaykh : No, it means neither religion nor intellect.
Another questioner: Shaykh, I have a question.
The Shaykh : Welcome.
Another questioner: Double welcome.
The Shaykh : How are you? I hope you are well, if Allah wills.
Another questioner: Praise be to Allah.
The Shaykh : Yes