A man entered the mosque and had missed the prayer, so he prayed alone. Then another man came and offered to pray with him. How is this congregation called? Then some of the worshippers joined them and prayed with them.
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The questioner : A man entered, and one who had prayed the obligatory prayer with the imam offered to pray with him. What is this congregation called?
The Shaykh : This is a voluntary congregation.
The questioner : ... All right, you entered while they were praying. One man entered, then a second, then a third, and they joined them?
The Shaykh : Yes, that is not permissible.
The questioner : It is not permissible.
The Shaykh : Unless he holds the view that repeating the second congregation is permissible. But if he holds the view that the second congregation is not permissible, like its counterparts, and he does not see that instead of one person there are now ten, he knows that it is a second congregation.
The questioner : ... The original principle is that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) permitted it.
The Shaykh : One person, is that not so?
Another questioner: The congregation... the situation is the same.
The Shaykh : Wait, wait a moment. Wait, wait a moment.
Another questioner: The situation...
The Shaykh : The hadith is the same.
Another questioner: ... The situation is with one person.
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : I mean, the situation that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) mentioned was when one man entered, and he said to one of them, "Who will offer to pray with him?"
The Shaykh : Fine.
The questioner : This is the situation.
The Shaykh : Yes, exactly.
The questioner : Are the other situations prohibited?
The Shaykh : What are the other situations in your view?
The questioner : What I mentioned: people entered, found a congregation, and prayed with them.
The Shaykh : All right, did those who entered have already prayed with the congregation?
The questioner : They were late, meaning they wanted to...
The Shaykh : The best speech is what is brief and effective. Did they pray with the congregation? Say no.
The questioner : No.
The Shaykh : And the first one? Then the issue is different...
The questioner : Then it is not permissible to...
The Shaykh : Yes, exactly.
Another questioner: A question...
The Shaykh : Yes...
The Shaykh : This is a voluntary congregation.
The questioner : ... All right, you entered while they were praying. One man entered, then a second, then a third, and they joined them?
The Shaykh : Yes, that is not permissible.
The questioner : It is not permissible.
The Shaykh : Unless he holds the view that repeating the second congregation is permissible. But if he holds the view that the second congregation is not permissible, like its counterparts, and he does not see that instead of one person there are now ten, he knows that it is a second congregation.
The questioner : ... The original principle is that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) permitted it.
The Shaykh : One person, is that not so?
Another questioner: The congregation... the situation is the same.
The Shaykh : Wait, wait a moment. Wait, wait a moment.
Another questioner: The situation...
The Shaykh : The hadith is the same.
Another questioner: ... The situation is with one person.
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : I mean, the situation that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) mentioned was when one man entered, and he said to one of them, "Who will offer to pray with him?"
The Shaykh : Fine.
The questioner : This is the situation.
The Shaykh : Yes, exactly.
The questioner : Are the other situations prohibited?
The Shaykh : What are the other situations in your view?
The questioner : What I mentioned: people entered, found a congregation, and prayed with them.
The Shaykh : All right, did those who entered have already prayed with the congregation?
The questioner : They were late, meaning they wanted to...
The Shaykh : The best speech is what is brief and effective. Did they pray with the congregation? Say no.
The questioner : No.
The Shaykh : And the first one? Then the issue is different...
The questioner : Then it is not permissible to...
The Shaykh : Yes, exactly.
Another questioner: A question...
The Shaykh : Yes...