The Shaykh’s remarks on nasheeds, and his mention of an incident that occurred with one of the young men.
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The questioner: By Allah, O our Shaykh, may Allah reward you with good, regarding this, it reminds me of Muhammad, Muhammad...
The Shaykh: Muhammad ibn al-...
The questioner: al-...
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner: That in this thesis, you also address the refutation of al-Ghazali.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner: And I wish, O Shaykh, no offense, but if you were to speak about the topic of Islamic nasheeds, O Shaykh.
Another questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: In the same thesis.
The questioner: By Allah, in the same thesis.
The Shaykh: Because... since ancient times, and we are expanding in it.
The questioner: Because this, O Shaykh, has become a trial.
Another questioner: It has become a farce.
The questioner: My wife was being dropped off by one of her friends who wanted to get married, so he dropped her off near the house, and by Allah, as I heard, one was passing by the street and I heard.
The Shaykh: Learn, learn...
The questioner: I heard the melodies, O Shaykh, the melodies are the lewd ones, so when I stopped in front of... I heard. I said to her: No, do not get out, they are playing songs.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner: She listened, she said: No, these are not songs, these are Islamic nasheeds. By Allah, on the same meter and the same melody.
The Shaykh: This is the problem.
The questioner: And it does not differ in anything.
The Shaykh: Correct.
The questioner: And I do not think and I cannot distinguish whether these truly do not have musical instruments or not; because they come in a strange way, O Shaykh, with sound effects and others.
The Shaykh: Correct.
The questioner: So I wish, O Shaykh, that...
The Shaykh: So this is addressed, and praise be to Allah; even I mentioned the story of how it happened between me and one of the students of knowledge from... "Abu al-Khayr al-Maydani" if you have heard of him.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: The head of the "Association of Scholars in Syria" at that time, a student of his was a customer of mine, meaning I was a watchmaker at that time, so he came to me carrying something, I looked inside and it was a square envelope, so I deduced from the squareness of this envelope that it contained what is called among us the...
Abu Malik: The rabab.
The Shaykh: No, no. An envelope, an envelope, containing what is called "cوانات" among us; meaning: the plates.
The questioner: The records.
The Shaykh: Of the box.
Abu Malik: They are the records.
The Shaykh : The containers, what do you call these?
The questioner: A record.
The Shaykh: A record.
The questioner: These are circular.
The Shaykh: I understood that he was carrying what? Records.
The questioner: He was carrying evil.
The Shaykh: I wanted to enter into the matter with him, but in a way that had some distance from it; because this means that he is listening to these plates, so I said to him, naturally with disapproval: Do you sing? Of course, I said: He does not sing, a student of knowledge, the term "agbaniyyah" which they call among us in the Levant: yellow.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: And a beard, and I have known him for a long time, do you sing? He said: No. I said to him: Okay; what is this? He said: They are cوانات. I said to him: Then you are listening to singing? He said: Yes, but I have a good intention. Here is the point.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Here is the point, I said to him: How do you mean a good intention? He said - look, poor things - he said: He puts the chair, and he puts this box and plays it on an "Umm Kulthum" song, and he takes the prayer beads and he glorifies Allah, and he plays "Umm Kulthum" songs, and he remembers with them the songs of the houris [Everyone laughs!].
The questioner: This customer?
The Shaykh: I spoke with him, I do not know with what, he left the watch with me to fix it, of course we usually give an appointment, the appointment came and he came with a colleague of his from the "Al-Kasem" house in our Damascus, a tall man, and I know that he is stronger in knowledge than the customer, and one of the close ones to the Shaykh "Abu al-Khayr al-Maydani" the head of the Association of Scholars, and here he brought him to help against me.
Abu Malik: Yes, he took him as a supporter.
The Shaykh: Ah, the important thing is he opened the topic or I opened it - I no longer remember - the important thing is he mentioned the same words that his companion mentioned at first, I said to him: O Shaykh, you are not only contradicting the evidence of the Shari'ah, the Qur'an:[Al-A'raf 7:51], the hadiths of the Messenger - peace be upon him - that forbid in a general manner the instruments of music, but you are also contradicting the Imams who are strict with people to not contradict them even in the way of following the Book and the Sunnah; so which of the Imams told you that it is permissible for a person to listen to a song of a foreign woman with a good intention?! A good intention that we want to remember the singing of the houris!! I said to him - here is the point - I said to him: What do you say to a person if he imitated you, and you saw him taking to drinking wine, so when you rebuked him, he said: I am remembering the wine of Paradise!! So they were stunned and fell silent.
In this thesis, it is in the refutation of the Shaykh Muhammad, no, the Shaykh Muhammad in the introduction, the one who restricted music that... Subhan Allah; he followed his path, you mentioned "al-Ghazali" quoting from our brother "Muhammad al-Khatib", al-Ghazali in this issue was refuted very severely in the introduction of the thesis; because in his book al-Sunnah.
Another questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: He also addressed this hadith, the important thing is do you have some paper?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: ... What is this restriction contrary to the texts that forbid the instruments of music in general, so where did you bring this restriction from? This is first, second: can this restriction be controlled? It may be a type of music that does not arouse the sexual instinct for a Shaykh.
Another questioner : Correct.
The Shaykh: But it may arouse the sexual instinct for a young man, may and may, and so on, and I gave an example of the Shaykh al-Ghazali himself.
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: No problem, I said: the Shaykh...
Abu Malik: ...
The Shaykh: But yours is a little better than this.
Abu Malik: Your name, your name.
The Shaykh: No, on a white face, meaning I can tell you it is smooth, we can write on it, but this will go flaky.
The questioner: Because, O Shaykh, paper here "Abu Faisal", meaning by the way the hadith here is about the detailed thesis.
The Shaykh: Yes, the point is I gave an example, I said: If the Shaykh al-Ghazali sat one day, and he explicitly stated that he listens to Umm Kulthum.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: And he has a wife, and perhaps he has a daughter or he has a son, and so on, he may not be affected; because this is music and songs that are not arousing for him, but can it be said this for his wife, for his daughter, for his son, and so on?
And I gave an example that this statement is like a statement of the people of opinion like you in the past when they distinguished between wine made from grapes and wine made from corn and dates and the like, they said in the first as he - peace be upon him - said:, they said in the other type: only the much is forbidden from it. So we said: how can one know the much from the little? Meaning a person drinks, he drinks a glass that does not intoxicate him, a second glass that does not intoxicate him, as soon as he takes the first sip from the third glass, this is the haram; is this speech?! Is this speech?! Meaning the sip that intoxicated or the total of the, this is exactly like this.
The questioner: We return to say, meaning the sip and the two sips are forbidden, meaning?
Those present : [Everyone laughs!]
The Shaykh: Then I took this opportunity and struck the opinion of the Tahrir Party, and I do not say I struck the Tahrir Party, I struck the opinion of the Tahrir Party which says - and what a wonder! - it said: it is permissible for a strange man if he meets a Muslim woman in the road to greet her, and not only shake her hand; but also kiss her, but with the condition of a good intention.
Another questioner : ... [Everyone laughs!]
The Shaykh: Yes, this is it. What is this, people?! They do not think about what they say, by Allah it is a calamity!
The questioner: Unfortunately, some of the non-committed... do not say.
The Shaykh: They do not say, by Allah, Allahu Akbar!
The questioner: Yes, we return to our topic.
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
The questioner : May Allah bless you.
The Shaykh: Widen it, my brother.
The Shaykh: Muhammad ibn al-...
The questioner: al-...
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner: That in this thesis, you also address the refutation of al-Ghazali.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner: And I wish, O Shaykh, no offense, but if you were to speak about the topic of Islamic nasheeds, O Shaykh.
Another questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: In the same thesis.
The questioner: By Allah, in the same thesis.
The Shaykh: Because... since ancient times, and we are expanding in it.
The questioner: Because this, O Shaykh, has become a trial.
Another questioner: It has become a farce.
The questioner: My wife was being dropped off by one of her friends who wanted to get married, so he dropped her off near the house, and by Allah, as I heard, one was passing by the street and I heard.
The Shaykh: Learn, learn...
The questioner: I heard the melodies, O Shaykh, the melodies are the lewd ones, so when I stopped in front of... I heard. I said to her: No, do not get out, they are playing songs.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner: She listened, she said: No, these are not songs, these are Islamic nasheeds. By Allah, on the same meter and the same melody.
The Shaykh: This is the problem.
The questioner: And it does not differ in anything.
The Shaykh: Correct.
The questioner: And I do not think and I cannot distinguish whether these truly do not have musical instruments or not; because they come in a strange way, O Shaykh, with sound effects and others.
The Shaykh: Correct.
The questioner: So I wish, O Shaykh, that...
The Shaykh: So this is addressed, and praise be to Allah; even I mentioned the story of how it happened between me and one of the students of knowledge from... "Abu al-Khayr al-Maydani" if you have heard of him.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: The head of the "Association of Scholars in Syria" at that time, a student of his was a customer of mine, meaning I was a watchmaker at that time, so he came to me carrying something, I looked inside and it was a square envelope, so I deduced from the squareness of this envelope that it contained what is called among us the...
Abu Malik: The rabab.
The Shaykh: No, no. An envelope, an envelope, containing what is called "cوانات" among us; meaning: the plates.
The questioner: The records.
The Shaykh: Of the box.
Abu Malik: They are the records.
The Shaykh : The containers, what do you call these?
The questioner: A record.
The Shaykh: A record.
The questioner: These are circular.
The Shaykh: I understood that he was carrying what? Records.
The questioner: He was carrying evil.
The Shaykh: I wanted to enter into the matter with him, but in a way that had some distance from it; because this means that he is listening to these plates, so I said to him, naturally with disapproval: Do you sing? Of course, I said: He does not sing, a student of knowledge, the term "agbaniyyah" which they call among us in the Levant: yellow.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: And a beard, and I have known him for a long time, do you sing? He said: No. I said to him: Okay; what is this? He said: They are cوانات. I said to him: Then you are listening to singing? He said: Yes, but I have a good intention. Here is the point.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Here is the point, I said to him: How do you mean a good intention? He said - look, poor things - he said: He puts the chair, and he puts this box and plays it on an "Umm Kulthum" song, and he takes the prayer beads and he glorifies Allah, and he plays "Umm Kulthum" songs, and he remembers with them the songs of the houris [Everyone laughs!].
The questioner: This customer?
The Shaykh: I spoke with him, I do not know with what, he left the watch with me to fix it, of course we usually give an appointment, the appointment came and he came with a colleague of his from the "Al-Kasem" house in our Damascus, a tall man, and I know that he is stronger in knowledge than the customer, and one of the close ones to the Shaykh "Abu al-Khayr al-Maydani" the head of the Association of Scholars, and here he brought him to help against me.
Abu Malik: Yes, he took him as a supporter.
The Shaykh: Ah, the important thing is he opened the topic or I opened it - I no longer remember - the important thing is he mentioned the same words that his companion mentioned at first, I said to him: O Shaykh, you are not only contradicting the evidence of the Shari'ah, the Qur'an:
took their religion as distraction and amusement
اتَّخَذُوا دِينَهُمْ لَهْوًا وَلَعِبًاIn this thesis, it is in the refutation of the Shaykh Muhammad, no, the Shaykh Muhammad in the introduction, the one who restricted music that... Subhan Allah; he followed his path, you mentioned "al-Ghazali" quoting from our brother "Muhammad al-Khatib", al-Ghazali in this issue was refuted very severely in the introduction of the thesis; because in his book al-Sunnah.
Another questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: He also addressed this hadith, the important thing is do you have some paper?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: ... What is this restriction contrary to the texts that forbid the instruments of music in general, so where did you bring this restriction from? This is first, second: can this restriction be controlled? It may be a type of music that does not arouse the sexual instinct for a Shaykh.
Another questioner : Correct.
The Shaykh: But it may arouse the sexual instinct for a young man, may and may, and so on, and I gave an example of the Shaykh al-Ghazali himself.
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: No problem, I said: the Shaykh...
Abu Malik: ...
The Shaykh: But yours is a little better than this.
Abu Malik: Your name, your name.
The Shaykh: No, on a white face, meaning I can tell you it is smooth, we can write on it, but this will go flaky.
The questioner: Because, O Shaykh, paper here "Abu Faisal", meaning by the way the hadith here is about the detailed thesis.
The Shaykh: Yes, the point is I gave an example, I said: If the Shaykh al-Ghazali sat one day, and he explicitly stated that he listens to Umm Kulthum.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: And he has a wife, and perhaps he has a daughter or he has a son, and so on, he may not be affected; because this is music and songs that are not arousing for him, but can it be said this for his wife, for his daughter, for his son, and so on?
And I gave an example that this statement is like a statement of the people of opinion like you in the past when they distinguished between wine made from grapes and wine made from corn and dates and the like, they said in the first as he - peace be upon him - said:
Its little and its much are forbidden
قليله وكثيره حرامThe questioner: We return to say, meaning the sip and the two sips are forbidden, meaning?
Those present : [Everyone laughs!]
The Shaykh: Then I took this opportunity and struck the opinion of the Tahrir Party, and I do not say I struck the Tahrir Party, I struck the opinion of the Tahrir Party which says - and what a wonder! - it said: it is permissible for a strange man if he meets a Muslim woman in the road to greet her, and not only shake her hand; but also kiss her, but with the condition of a good intention.
Another questioner : ... [Everyone laughs!]
The Shaykh: Yes, this is it. What is this, people?! They do not think about what they say, by Allah it is a calamity!
The questioner: Unfortunately, some of the non-committed... do not say.
The Shaykh: They do not say, by Allah, Allahu Akbar!
The questioner: Yes, we return to our topic.
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
The questioner : May Allah bless you.
The Shaykh: Widen it, my brother.
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